Received: from mail-ea0-f185.google.com ([209.85.215.185]:55467) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U3wMf-0002yy-Op; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:24:22 -0800 Received: by mail-ea0-f185.google.com with SMTP id l10sf1206527eaa.2 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:24:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ilc+LH6OiA7QCj64/phYkTP3woVUoX+2XT6w6g8hnOs=; b=P1jq7sIkg+9i1i+Ow1igdauoroklykfdtwKoeYQ6B2ROXqsbOpF8ncfaoOqbb+vZYa 2mlrayBuRliCq02PihV9vAXUq0GhBktUNQKMo4tG1uhSM7tDI8TfvCq8Eiiw1jO6UNDL HrwNFkzzLO9ljTnw+BS3rygA/ocFGhtMjTC7kuRgpSiZzD+oKhFXd1crZdjwhgHhCq02 huPxGILNRHpJnufeGUc3FmzCHSqTtkyCpQjEFNPupOgYGwpmol0nMMY+HieOkxtW50FL KHmqys2tkAPIrvdBtGUV65T40vSGHgB9ywG4rlNAEgWj0SvHy1kI2iwbBGlLpOCoNOI/ JoOQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ilc+LH6OiA7QCj64/phYkTP3woVUoX+2XT6w6g8hnOs=; b=sg37j0GetWxQo9NaiKH84cz/oPRCciluX4Z3LBy6eqjsbZac7HxCux2GDTUfA6EeMB Hw+bUf4wMRhc1YpwM2KNecEcAdxilbrzqzVyvMcCZwTSXJe7QxegK0B2fJtXlDkdJWsh rz9nVX6eDagvOAQ6eC097fucA1JIm8hqyMxP1R09TvJ6PEAAdtwveijtEqjJiq9rWTHz XXiFM5zF7G+MccSLilQ879ppaRJ3dK75huE1ic4e7xNG0ea4LLbJLMWJDqMrQ/OirhuY bzx57y53EBHpwOIWZflqpJCX242G6Xmk3ALskH4aevcK7FaIs2lju2OgqCSFAbMFDR9s iiOw== X-Received: by 10.180.75.174 with SMTP id d14mr180563wiw.17.1360362245562; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:24:05 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.73.199 with SMTP id n7ls440394wiv.4.canary; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:24:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.204.7.210 with SMTP id e18mr879733bke.4.1360362244183; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:24:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.204.7.210 with SMTP id e18mr879732bke.4.1360362244150; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i9si2358681bki.2.2013.02.08.14.24.04 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:24:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.172; Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id n8so3375673lbj.17 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:24:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.102.177 with SMTP id fp17mr6372024lab.0.1360362243719; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.99.101 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:24:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <498c5ef6-291c-4aea-ac8d-8fae281ee65b@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:24:03 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] .i ko fanva From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0408d69b4d814904d53e043f X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d0408d69b4d814904d53e043f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:49 AM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Sebastian wrote: > >> 17 jan 2013 kl. 06:04 skrev "la .lindar." : >> >> BUTTON >> (Noun) >> Like on a shirt or jacket. >> >> pe'i {batke} ranges over both button on shirts and keyboards, just like >> it's English counterpart. >> >> I think this is a mistake. Shirt buttons fasten, keyboard and screen > buttons don't. > They are all similar shapes, and that is why they are all batke. > stevo > >> >> BUTTON >> (Verb) >> Like what you do with a button. >> >> >> Something like {batke}+{catke}/{lasna}? >> >> >> It seems like this *really* should have been base-game content. >> What were the developers thinking? Seriously... >> (Also, food for thought, why does something begin passively and end >> agentively? cfari / sisti) >> >> But then you might be able to easily construct lujvos to get this >> distinction: >> Passively: {cfari} {tolcfa} >> Agentively: {sisti} {tolsti} >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/04B9kawMyXUJ. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:49 AM, MorphemeAddict = <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:57 A= M, Sebastian <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:
17 jan 2013 kl. 06:04 skrev "la .lindar." = <lindartheb= ard@gmail.com>:

BUTTON
(Noun)
Like on a shirt = or jacket.
pe'i {batke} ranges over both = button on shirts and keyboards, just like it's English counterpart.
I think this is a mistake. Shirt bu= ttons fasten, keyboard and screen buttons don't.=A0

They are all similar shapes, and that is why they are all bat= ke.
=A0
stevo

B= UTTON
(Verb)
Like what you do with a button.

Something like {batke}+{catke}/{lasna}?<= div>

It seems like this *= really* should have been base-game content.
What were the develop= ers thinking? Seriously...
(Also, food for thought, why does some= thing begin passively and end agentively? cfari / sisti)
But then you might be able to easily construct luj= vos to get this distinction:
Passively: {cfari} {tolcfa}=A0
A= gentively: {sisti} {tolsti}

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