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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Ilmen wrote: > coi la gleki. > On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Ilmen wrote: > *[Note: this is the second time I send this mail, because for some > reason my first mail never appeared in the liste.]* > > coi la gleki. > > This wikibook seems to be effectively a great work, thank you for sharing > the link! =E2=99=AA > > For what I saw, it has been authored by a certain "Ctuca", who wrote it > between 2008-2009. I suspect (s)he may also be the author of most of the > content of the Japanese version of the Wikipedia article about Lojban > (namely: http://ja.wikipedia.org /wiki/=E3=83=AD=E3=82=B8=E3=83=90=E3=83= =B3), > because there is similar tables therein. > > Hmm, I just checked quickly the historic of the Wikipedia page, but I > don't see any "Ctuca", but Guskant, Tijlan and some others. :) > > Anyway, I can read Japanese rather well, so I'll try to read some chapter= s > when I'd have time enough. :) If you want to know what part talk about > what, just ask me, but I don't really feel like translating it, there is = a > good amout of text in there. \o/ > > Anyway the presentation is very good, all these tables and diagrams with > dilute colors look very nice. ^^ > > mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o > ___________________________ > > la gleki a =C3=A9crit : > > Namely, > http://ja.wikibooks.org/wiki/%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B8%E3%83%90%E3%83%B3/%E7%9B%= AE%E6%AC%A1 > > If you go through links on that page you'll see unique images showing > the structure of lojbanic grammar. > I wonder why we don't have those in English. > > May be someone can translate into english wikiboooks? > The stuff is really awesome (both in pictures and text). > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --bcaec52d4d3123dd4204d54d8823 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes it did.

On Fri= , Feb 8, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20 =20 coi la gleki.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Ilmen = <ilmen.poke= bip@gmail.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
[Note: this is the second time I send this mail, because for some reason my first mail never appeared in the liste.]

co= i la gleki.

This wikibook seems to be effectively a great work, thank you for sharing the link! =E2=99=AA

For what I saw, it has been authored by a certain "Ctuca&quo= t;, who wrote it between 2008-2009. I suspect (s)he may also be the author of most of the content of the Japanese version of the Wikipedia article about Lojban (namely: http://ja.wikipedia.org /wiki/=E3=83=AD=E3=82=B8=E3=83=90=E3=83=B3), because there = is similar tables therein.

Hmm, I just checked quickly the historic of the Wikipedia page, but I don't see any "Ctuca", but Guskant, Tij= lan and some others. :)

Anyway, I can read Japanese rather well, so I'll try to read some chapters when I'd have time enough. :)=C2=A0 If you want= to know what part talk about what, just ask me, but I don't really feel like translating it, there is a good amout of text in there. \o/

Anyway the presentation is very good, all these tables and diagrams with dilute colors look very nice. ^^

mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o
___________________________

la gleki a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Namely, http://ja.wikibooks.org/wiki/%E3%83= %AD%E3%82%B8%E3%83%90%E3%83%B3/%E7%9B%AE%E6%AC%A1

If you go through links on that page you'll see unique images showing the structure of lojbanic grammar.
I wonder why we don't have those in English.

May be someone can translate into english wikiboooks?
The stuff is really awesome (both in pictures and text).
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