Received: from mail-qa0-f56.google.com ([209.85.216.56]:63245) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U4Dv4-0001PT-Na; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:09:04 -0800 Received: by mail-qa0-f56.google.com with SMTP id dx4sf672766qab.21 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:08:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UKsqvEkfl4ShtoaFNyPSqu6pzToJBIDjMbbVInCdelg=; b=f7F/x5zIZqZ8bT2AUX10lWR4AJfQk8qsJkz25/Jx43NbS732mmxTjzx2b/xh4JtBXK Yi0lyg/NYZxfUDFxqQ4AddF0X5KNoD538v4p6eDm0jNEVgs82Kd0X8uHjSEeUPtSbXjX RQOH3q7BN3r4/LO565MpPym7rt6F3LNZhg+vMF4XT+phbx3DTkkkIILyC+0pXaEIfAf2 GwmFV1YrU2BHcnUiP8TiV5MzEE96u1WSdW+QtiwlmqypPsr+222vOEpR7w6FM2Pb8asF Wf0WDcMoSprjQCqwA7Sf9J3Y4Kj8wtu7ED3YE3/CztOa3kIBwon+H8cApbgYXt/Rgn1b 79sA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UKsqvEkfl4ShtoaFNyPSqu6pzToJBIDjMbbVInCdelg=; b=XDluKfVYcURUv01zMPsaGoza/SGmNC3ZqFw8bb2ouch4N+QOupUtbLNXyfJ0/nQmj+ AyAiQdxu7iRJ2pTdpsBgc5Fh2S+ILmc8Q0+6PkXhLPNhxJKkXDZthjtd3taZwnKt7Ni0 bE5cK/flwP6il/d9VC0GuWmrVvJE5lWL2slluIrXVMLUmMO3Ialfx/jXum3SSQHDDOO5 1wqYlHuohFlJq2TvrdvX6YVhoQcIoxOlRPv7sgs6kYDgDFGky6/MeS49hLCiosgyMRLC acPnGXK362Hv8ybzrfrYLBitanLUTwPqWiaNsV91otM6pSYW6uH331/XerY8BhXRUbLP PcWA== X-Received: by 10.50.47.134 with SMTP id d6mr292285ign.0.1360429727173; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:08:47 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.5.175 with SMTP id t15ls1123588igt.33.canary; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:08:46 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.23.5 with SMTP id q5mr7051957icb.21.1360429726479; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:08:46 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.23.5 with SMTP id q5mr7051956icb.21.1360429726467; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ia0-x22e.google.com (ia-in-x022e.1e100.net [2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vz3si243005igb.0.2013.02.09.09.08.46 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22e; Received: by mail-ia0-f174.google.com with SMTP id o25so5289561iad.33 for ; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:08:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.169.6 with SMTP id aa6mr8162425igc.1.1360429726360; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:08:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.177.1 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 09:08:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0c6ecd5d-9e9b-4180-b719-c92d16a4bdfa@googlegroups.com> References: <84d88820-8c7d-436b-a0cc-222666747afd@googlegroups.com> <2625542.LcrIRrlWQu@caracal> <0c6ecd5d-9e9b-4180-b719-c92d16a4bdfa@googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 14:08:46 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] strange behaviour of {cortu} From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Felipe_Gon=E7alves_Assis?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: felipeg.assis@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=felipeg.assis@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On 9 February 2013 13:50, la gleki wrote: > > > On Saturday, February 9, 2013 6:21:29 PM UTC+4, .asiz. wrote: >> >> I still don't see the problem. And, while I agree with most of tsani's >> stance on use >> of abstractions, I think he went too far here. The locus of pain IS a >> concrete object, >> and the fact that it is usually described with a part-whole relation >> doesn't mean that >> it has to be always like that. Consider >> {mi cortu lo xunre} >> > > Well, he said he was semi-serious. Next, IMO this is not lojban but a > dialect of it. Lastly, this shows how this problem could be solved. > Again, I don't see the problem. Restricting cortu2 to involve a part-of-body relation would be a problem. The current {mi cortu lo xunre}, {mi cortu ti}, {mi cortu lo se janli} wouldn't be easily expressible, just to mention the first few that come up to my mind. > I can't say that I like such solution, it's a bit awkward but shows the > idea. > Non-problem, non-solution. mu'o mi'e .asiz. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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