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In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.218 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la gleki wrote: > "This is-a-house of me" will sound extremely strange in Russian so "=D0= =BC=D0=BE=D0=B9" > is retained. But this stylistically awkward "=D0=AD=D1=82=D0=BE =D0=B4=D0= =BE=D0=BC =D0=BC=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=8F" (This > is-a-house of-me) is put into the the answer (which is greyed). > > (I can't give the literal Russian equivalent because I don't know > how to make a verb out of the noun "=D0=B4=D0=BE=D0=BC".) > > > Me neither. I don't either, and my Russian is even rustier than my Lojban (and I was=20 never better than "semi-fluent in 6-year-old Russian" when I could talk=20 clumsily to my newly adopted kids 20 years ago), but I seem to recall=20 that there is an adjective form for most nouns, and IIRC you can turn an=20 adjective into a verb in a couple of ways. Also, while zdani is translated into English easiest as a noun or=20 perhaps a verb, but there is an adjective version as well (though very=20 hard to render in English). This is a housish thing of mine, perhaps.=20 Or perhaps the gerund version (which may have a Russian equivalent) This=20 is housing for me. lojbab --=20 Bob LeChevalier lojbab@lojban.org www.lojban.org President and Founder, The Logical Language Group, Inc. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.