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Afterwards your messages are posted without review. -- Ross On 12/02/2013 7:34 AM, "Ilmen" wrote: > .ua .ue ru'e > > Mmmh, this is pretty curious; believe me or not, before sending again the > mail, I checked several times on the Google Groups whether my first mail > appeared in it, and actually it wasn't there within the first 24 hours > after it was sent. =3D/ > > Anyway, sorry for the duplicate. > > mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o > > Jonathan Jones a =C3=A9crit : > > Yes it did. > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Ilmen wrote: >> coi la gleki. >> > > On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Ilmen wrote: > >> *[Note: this is the second time I send this mail, because for some >> reason my first mail never appeared in the liste.]* >> >> coi la gleki. >> >> This wikibook seems to be effectively a great work, thank you for sharin= g >> the link! =E2=99=AA >> >> For what I saw, it has been authored by a certain "Ctuca", who wrote it >> between 2008-2009. I suspect (s)he may also be the author of most of the >> content of the Japanese version of the Wikipedia article about Lojban >> (namely: http://ja.wikipedia.org /wiki/=E3=83=AD=E3=82=B8=E3=83=90=E3=83= =B3), >> because there is similar tables therein. >> >> Hmm, I just checked quickly the historic of the Wikipedia page, but I >> don't see any "Ctuca", but Guskant, Tijlan and some others. :) >> >> Anyway, I can read Japanese rather well, so I'll try to read some >> chapters when I'd have time enough. :) If you want to know what part ta= lk >> about what, just ask me, but I don't really feel like translating it, th= ere >> is a good amout of text in there. \o/ >> >> Anyway the presentation is very good, all these tables and diagrams with >> dilute colors look very nice. ^^ >> >> mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o >> ___________________________ >> >> la gleki a =C3=A9crit : >> >> Namely, >> http://ja.wikibooks.org/wiki/%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B8%E3%83%90%E3%83%B3/%E7%9B= %AE%E6%AC%A1 >> >> If you go through links on that page you'll see unique images showing >> the structure of lojbanic grammar. >> I wonder why we don't have those in English. >> >> May be someone can translate into english wikiboooks? >> The stuff is really awesome (both in pictures and text). >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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If it's your first post to the group, I think the modera= tor has to approve it. Afterwards your messages are posted without review. =

-- Ross

On 12/02/2013 7:34 AM, "Ilmen" <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wro= te:
=20 =20 =20
.ua .ue ru'e

Mmmh, this is pretty curious; believe me or not,
before sending again the mail, I checked several times on the Google Groups whether my first mail appeared in it, and actually it wasn't there within the first 24 hours after it was sent. =3D/

Anyway, sorry for the duplicate.

mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o

Jonathan Jones a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Yes it did.

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
coi la gleki.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:
[Note: this is the second time I send this mail, because for some reason my first mail never appeared in the liste.]

coi la gleki.

This wikibook seems to be effectively a great work, thank you for sharing the link! =E2=99=AA

For what I saw, it has been authored by a certain "Ctuca", who wrote it between 2008-2009. I su= spect (s)he may also be the author of most of the content of the Japanese version of the Wikipedia article about Lojban (namely: http://ja.wikipedia.org /wiki/=E3=83= =AD=E3=82=B8=E3=83=90=E3=83=B3), because there is similar tables therein.

Hmm, I just checked quickly the historic of the Wikipedia page, but I don't see any "Ctuca&quo= t;, but Guskant, Tijlan and some others. :)

Anyway, I can read Japanese rather well, so I'll tr= y to read some chapters when I'd have time enough. :)= =C2=A0 If you want to know what part talk about what, just ask me, but I don't really feel like translating it= , there is a good amout of text in there. \o/

Anyway the presentation is very good, all these tables and diagrams with dilute colors look very nice. ^^

mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o
___________________________

la gleki a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Namely, http://ja.wikib= ooks.org/wiki/%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B8%E3%83%90%E3%83%B3/%E7%9B%AE%E6%AC%A1

If you go through links on that page you'll see unique images showing the structure of lojbanic grammar.
I wonder why we don't have those in English.

May be someone can translate into english wikiboooks?
The stuff is really awesome (both in pictures and text).
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