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[193.248.29.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fg6sm16744567wib.10.2013.02.11.15.28.53 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:29:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <51197EAD.3090406@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:28:45 +0100 From: Ilmen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Firefox/16.0 SeaMonkey/2.13.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Question regarding japanese wikipedia References: <81d75def-3682-4a7f-bb9b-9184cd82ee8c@googlegroups.com> <51164DBB.1010106@gmail.com> <511955BB.9060301@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::229 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040504070501020803020701" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040504070501020803020701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's what I thought, thank you. :) I've been reading the mailing lists=20 for a while and did notice that the mails written by new people often=20 appeared unusually lately. However my first reply in this thread wasn't=20 my first mail here, but the second one. My first mail dates from almost=20 two months though, and I then experienced the same problem when sending=20 it. :) mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o Ross Ogilvie a =C3=A9crit : > > If it's your first post to the group, I think the moderator has to=20 > approve it. Afterwards your messages are posted without review. > > -- Ross > > On 12/02/2013 7:34 AM, "Ilmen" > wrote: > > .ua .ue ru'e > > Mmmh, this is pretty curious; believe me or not, before sending > again the mail, I checked several times on the Google Groups > whether my first mail appeared in it, and actually it wasn't there > within the first 24 hours after it was sent. =3D/ > > Anyway, sorry for the duplicate. > > mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o > > Jonathan Jones a =C3=A9crit : >> Yes it did. >> >> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Ilmen >> > wrote= : >> coi la gleki. >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Ilmen > > wrote: >> >> /[Note: this is the second time I send this mail, because for >> some reason my first mail never appeared in the liste.]/ >> >> coi la gleki. >> >> This wikibook seems to be effectively a great work, thank you >> for sharing the link! =E2=99=AA >> >> For what I saw, it has been authored by a certain "Ctuca", >> who wrote it between 2008-2009. I suspect (s)he may also be >> the author of most of the content of the Japanese version of >> the Wikipedia article about Lojban (namely: >> http://ja.wikipedia.org /wiki/=E3=83=AD=E3=82=B8=E3=83=90=E3=83= =B3 >> ), because there >> is similar tables therein. >> >> Hmm, I just checked quickly the historic of the Wikipedia >> page, but I don't see any "Ctuca", but Guskant, Tijlan and >> some others. :) >> >> Anyway, I can read Japanese rather well, so I'll try to read >> some chapters when I'd have time enough. :) If you want to >> know what part talk about what, just ask me, but I don't >> really feel like translating it, there is a good amout of >> text in there. \o/ >> >> Anyway the presentation is very good, all these tables and >> diagrams with dilute colors look very nice. ^^ >> >> mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o >> ___________________________ >> >> la gleki a =C3=A9crit : >>> Namely, >>> http://ja.wikibooks.org/wiki/%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B8%E3%83%90%E3%83%= B3/%E7%9B%AE%E6%AC%A1 >>> >>> >>> If you go through links on that page you'll see unique >>> images showing the structure of lojbanic grammar. >>> I wonder why we don't have those in English. >>> >>> May be someone can translate into english wikiboooks? >>> The stuff is really awesome (both in pictures and text). >>> --=20 >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> Google Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>> from it, send an email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3D= en. >>> For more options, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> --=20 >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> Google Groups "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >> it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3De= n. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out= . >> >> >> >> >> >> --=20 >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! 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It's what I thought, thank you. :)=C2=A0 I've been reading the mailing lists fo= r a while and did notice that the mails written by new people often appeared unusually lately. However my first reply in this thread wasn't my first mail here, but the second one. My first mail dates from almost two months though, and I then experienced the same problem when sending it. :)

mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o


Ross Ogilvie a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

If it's your first post to the group, I think the moderator has to approve it. Afterwards your messages are posted without review.

-- Ross

On 12/02/2013 7:34 AM, "Ilmen" <= ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:
.ua .ue ru'e

Mmmh, this is pretty curious; believe me or not,
before sending again the mail, I checked several times on the Google Groups whether my first mail appeared in it, and actually it wasn't there within the first 24 hours after it was sent. =3D/

Anyway, sorry for the duplicate.

mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o

Jonathan Jones a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Yes it did.

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:
coi la gleki.

On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:
[Note: this is the second time I send this mail, because for some reason my first mail never appeared in the liste.]
coi la gleki.

This wikibook seems to be effectively a great work, thank you for sharing the link! =E2=99=AA

For what I saw, it has been authored by a certain "Ctuca", who wrote it between 2008-2009. I suspect (s)he may also be the author of most of the content of the Japanese version of the Wikipedia article about Lojban (namely: http://ja.wikipedia.org /wiki/=E3=83=AD=E3=82=B8=E3=83=90=E3=83=B3), because there is similar tables therein.

Hmm, I just checked quickly the historic of the Wikipedia page, but I don't see any "Ctuca", but Guskant, Tijlan and some others. :)

Anyway, I can read Japanese rather well, so I'll try to read some chapters when I'd have time enough. :)=C2=A0 If you want to know what part talk about what, just ask me, but I don't really feel like translating it, there is a good amout of text in there. \o/

Anyway the presentation is very good, all these tables and diagrams with dilute colors look very nice. ^^

mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o
___________________________

la gleki a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Nam= ely, http://ja.wikibooks.org/wik= i/%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B8%E3%83%90%E3%83%B3/%E7%9B%AE%E6%AC%A1

If you go through links on that page you'll see unique images showing the structure of lojbanic grammar.
I wonder why we don't have those in English.

May be someone can translate into english wikiboooks?
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