Received: from mail-qa0-f64.google.com ([209.85.216.64]:38384) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U53du-0003At-PM; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:22:50 -0800 Received: by mail-qa0-f64.google.com with SMTP id cr7sf1385525qab.9 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:22:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf:from:to :subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=B1lk0i0wveicP3WE3BzwgY88ATsuzpSPLZ5uE3juz+o=; b=hA3FiN7S1pfXAfcx964wGt/fnSiqZiPELDn1NLJlrvLrx7oj2A3/G9SVqQ+vcjJjFR MqFRyGjKRs5oTCSxBHeDLnYIHqTrv55C3Z1VticFVhaBBwY9RaXxpr7aArW03TDG84aX JN1d5pDK+jqOc3v2am+xLYmFDPOCrS2EVnf/qI11hXHCD/1EIhKpsiySlo3oitPhRSsz oQF66ukyZeP76b8rL60U3S++x40RO5HWM57UpACzoSFyU964FunLFa2tE9g56PYuFqRs gXsHBkryxYhl9N0KUz/Noo/7FT6M3MvUxqSqhRgdwz9u1b7k49F1xiRnklsWMNR+P7WL qBsg== X-Received: by 10.49.95.68 with SMTP id di4mr1177796qeb.0.1360628551957; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:22:31 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.70.200 with SMTP id o8ls1759281qeu.33.gmail; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:22:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.137.203 with SMTP id y51mr7365611yhi.39.1360628550759; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:22:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.137.203 with SMTP id y51mr7365610yhi.39.1360628550748; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from leopard.ixazon.lan ([2001:470:8:42:f553:599a:1134:92c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u28si1767595yhm.1.2013.02.11.16.22.30; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:f553:599a:1134:92c is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:f553:599a:1134:92c; Received: from caracal.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:8:42:dcab:79f4:a022:9b41]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84F603ED for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:22:23 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] fu'ivla gerna Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:22:11 -0500 Message-ID: <1722494.pjFQAaWFYv@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-36-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <24690760-59a0-45a7-af33-5e19b2c1f3b2@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:f553:599a:1134:92c is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Monday, February 11, 2013 18:25:36 Ian Johnson wrote: > {na'e}, at least in my understanding of it, requires a scale. This is > frequently nonsensical, including in this situation. {na'ei} is the > contradictory negation NAhE. The caption of the drawing in the Book is "mi na'e lumci lo karce". A scale is fairly obvious ("to'e lumci lo karce" would mean getting mud all over it), but having an accident is not on the scale. Also, one can say "na'ebo le mlatu", and the cat is not on a scale (unless the vet is weighing him). Pierre -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.