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[66.94.237.215]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i65si470471yhh.5.2013.02.20.19.25.44 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:25:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.215 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.94.237.215; Received: from [66.94.237.193] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2013 03:25:44 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.120] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2013 03:25:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2013 03:25:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 532129.65769.bm@omp1025.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 16880 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Feb 2013 03:25:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: e5k3lHsVM1l0kI73p2sbh0soABUNXocnATC5SPZP.TjSHEj mJEPBHycjeQzpdHDR0riBTEYGpcI9.b7uhXvF8rDYc3EW35qD1N2P8gJ8dZD JbvrGo0JrgD0WWZjgIUyRy522vrlkER8a.6etStB.nJLowmxC.ovy7EdySGe hRHUvBxj4YWU0QqXngYAFNcdUGvXpUOZbLIR_8.nz.FwYmBgJjTbhvbilcY2 OSya7YIGMcssluHBuJS4FuL.x3mkLNhdMu7s47B2SBW6t8px7BtXG13zcpmf cNdDtiAPJ66bIo7WxhLyPaxV7r9bQcZjKVM1G7CvKv9T9raqNAr_t1wPK8tA r2XiMZJiZNQohzlLau4gCYpQKkH6UBu474tbkzNY9wrot9b_lva1WUzn8fE_ jzeBBL._cQVJ5NHEqhCNukxwmW.2xS4DWsflLt0L6FTFRsgQG77Xokqlh2nB 5wOqo5Quq5ihA1836tSlKdmofEvWgeqTxCa2h.rSo4bej_kCzMgb5c9okt_S vc.xbPzk- Received: from [99.92.108.194] by web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:25:43 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,W0FtZV1yaW5kKG8pIE5hdGl2ZSBBbWVyaWNhbi7CoCBJdCBsb29rcyBsaWtlIGFuIG9sZCB3b3JkLCBidXQgaXQgaXMgbm90IGluIGFueSBsaXN0IEkgaGF2ZS7CoCBNYW55IG9mIHRob3NlIGV0aG5pYywgY3VsdHVyZSB3b3JkcyBnb3QgbWFkZSB1cCBhbmQgdGhlbiBuZXZlciB1c2VkIGFuZCB0aGlzIG1heSBiZSBvbmUgLS0gb3IgUGllcnJlIGhhdmUgbWFkZSBpdCB1cCBub25jZWx5IHRvZGF5LsKgIENhcnJ5aW5nIG92ZXIgdGhlIGJsb29kIGltYWdlIGlzIHByb2JhYmx5IGEgYmFkIGlkZWEsIGFsdGhvdWcBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.134.513 References: <2894081.qm3WGx4RNe@caracal> <20130220223130.GF3918@samsa.fritz.box> Message-ID: <1361417143.16262.YahooMailNeo@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:25:43 -0800 (PST) From: John E Clifford Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] blood - jgina To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.215 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass header.i=@yahoo.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-6906265-2104821299-1361417143=:16262" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ---6906265-2104821299-1361417143=:16262 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Ame]rind(o) Native American.=A0 It looks like an old word, but it is not i= n any list I have.=A0 Many of those ethnic, culture words got made up and t= hen never used and this may be one -- or Pierre have made it up noncely tod= ay.=A0 Carrying over the blood image is probably a bad idea, although doing= it totally literally is probably worse ("none of my genetic material is de= rived from people of Native American heritage" or some such thing).=A0 Just= {mi na rindo} should cover it.=20 ________________________________ From: v4hn To: lojban@googlegroups.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] blood - jgina =20 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 04:01:41PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: > I've been thinking that "blood", as in "I have no Indian blood", should b= e=20 > translated as "jgina". Does "na jgina mi lo ka rindo" sound right? (By=20 > "Indian" I mean "Native American" here.) >=20 > Pierre That looks like misusage of scientific words to me. Afaik, there are larger differences in gene of people from the same country than of people from different countries in many cases. Maybe something like "mi na'e se dzena le liryxa'u"? What is {rindo} supposed to mean, I can't find it anywhere. mi'e la .van. mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ---6906265-2104821299-1361417143=:16262 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
[Ame]rind(o) Native Ameri= can.  It looks like an old word, but it is not in any list I have.&nbs= p; Many of those ethnic, culture words got made up and then never used and = this may be one -- or Pierre have made it up noncely today.  Carrying = over the blood image is probably a bad idea, although doing it totally lite= rally is probably worse ("none of my genetic material is derived from peopl= e of Native American heritage" or some such thing).  Just {mi na rindo= } should cover it.


From:= v4hn <me@v4hn.de>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [lojban] blood - jgina

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 04:01:41PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> I've = been thinking that "blood", as in "I have no Indian blood", should be
&= gt; translated as "jgina". Does "na jgina mi lo ka rindo" sound right? (By =
> "Indian" I mean "Native American" here.)
>
> Pierre
That looks like misusage of scientific words to me.
Afaik, there a= re larger differences in gene of people from the
same country than of pe= ople from different countries in many cases.

Maybe something like "m= i na'e se dzena le liryxa'u"?
What is {rindo} supposed to mean, I can't = find it anywhere.


mi'e la .van. mu'o


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