Received: from mail-ye0-f188.google.com ([209.85.213.188]:41093) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U8kWq-00056r-Nl; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:46:49 -0800 Received: by mail-ye0-f188.google.com with SMTP id r11sf70784yen.25 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:46:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=7c+D8J42IHyu4gg+uT5ZRBqQ8hF8FdgADhl+8JGl0z8=; b=Pl9HZHSH0Jppiip36U85+kno1/PcIoaSKtUMyf2eiQCxTH3ZfJWH9dOVyYzxPNocT7 TFuH34+SF5tTLi3OEg0d1UYhIHMu9HfHBVQfbSpLSkukqtsiowPAmdQou/TaZLogevAx N7PmNM0kgJYuv3aJcnFQglzXoYVTD8dD1V0yonTcqHn1Wdnk0g3OciW6VM775wkkJ2K1 cSu2JdPUPakCHLIPeguRfdSTwmPBUvNifw9+tje2fCE432zf6DmAQ6w0Xr7KlE9cNqV6 qUoaUKa/6E0VVVq8FJ1BZydh38QpsFXif/lYcFVbP/tuOy1+ye07B6GLYi0FkT9INVgc uqdA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=7c+D8J42IHyu4gg+uT5ZRBqQ8hF8FdgADhl+8JGl0z8=; b=uMa8Cfez2qbPtKuFidq/Rav5yOWpIOcZv4fI0F+cVmFRZT0dMxC8X3CC2Ck70qIec9 zgK3AnnMvNHCYB2FYdozDtasj7AhtHMPYQuHRslngqajSg83qFewgmHIck7lp/g7vVV3 Ski7SWTyw9AJZLxklsblWTK5bf1J9P9Uzm3kiBSUKgFFcTLekLyOIBlQWPov+0IHYogM hVzXlMi+8mJIkIVMdeJzjPGabpAFuD73YYjiqsVpM0iaVIhasRTSvOJluYCzIfHOy56L HQQm23YboKnBBWIeloqbvg70D7JbUqaGr2hnvLJRFuGB1W0zZ/9J+OLakWUg+2wkEe/P MjuQ== X-Received: by 10.50.214.36 with SMTP id nx4mr3448535igc.6.1361508389524; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:46:29 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.57.134 with SMTP id i6ls608623igq.12.canary; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:46:28 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.159.65 with SMTP id k1mr401223icx.10.1361508388430; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:46:28 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.159.65 with SMTP id k1mr401221icx.10.1361508388408; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oa0-f48.google.com (mail-oa0-f48.google.com [209.85.219.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j7si99269igc.3.2013.02.21.20.46.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.48; Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id j1so245402oag.35 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:46:28 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.60.11.71 with SMTP id o7mr230468oeb.69.1361508388060; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:46:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.46.232 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 20:46:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1361417143.16262.YahooMailNeo@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <2894081.qm3WGx4RNe@caracal> <20130220223130.GF3918@samsa.fritz.box> <1361417143.16262.YahooMailNeo@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Jacob Errington Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:46:06 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] blood - jgina To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f923d0ad43cad04d648df57 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8f923d0ad43cad04d648df57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 {mi na rindo} is certainly *enough*, but it's not as unnecessarily complex as "I have no Indian blood", I think. I'd suggest maybe something like {.i mi se dzena no rindo}. On 20 February 2013 22:25, John E Clifford wrote: > [Ame]rind(o) Native American. It looks like an old word, but it is not in > any list I have. Many of those ethnic, culture words got made up and then > never used and this may be one -- or Pierre have made it up noncely today. > Carrying over the blood image is probably a bad idea, although doing it > totally literally is probably worse ("none of my genetic material is > derived from people of Native American heritage" or some such thing). Just > {mi na rindo} should cover it. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* v4hn > *To:* lojban@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:31 PM > *Subject:* Re: [lojban] blood - jgina > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 04:01:41PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > I've been thinking that "blood", as in "I have no Indian blood", should > be > > translated as "jgina". Does "na jgina mi lo ka rindo" sound right? (By > > "Indian" I mean "Native American" here.) > > > > Pierre > > That looks like misusage of scientific words to me. > Afaik, there are larger differences in gene of people from the > same country than of people from different countries in many cases. > > Maybe something like "mi na'e se dzena le liryxa'u"? > What is {rindo} supposed to mean, I can't find it anywhere. > > > mi'e la .van. mu'o > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --e89a8f923d0ad43cad04d648df57 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable {mi na rindo} is certainly *enough*, but it's not as unnecessarily comp= lex as "I have no Indian blood", I think.
=A0I'd suggest = maybe something like {.i mi se dzena no rindo}.

On 20 February 2013 22:25, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>= ; wrote:
[Ame]rind(o) Native American.=A0 It looks like an ol= d word, but it is not in any list I have.=A0 Many of those ethnic, culture = words got made up and then never used and this may be one -- or Pierre have= made it up noncely today.=A0 Carrying over the blood image is probably a b= ad idea, although doing it totally literally is probably worse ("none = of my genetic material is derived from people of Native American heritage&q= uot; or some such thing).=A0 Just {mi na rindo} should cover it.


From: v4hn <me@v4hn.de>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 2= 0, 2013 4:31 PM
Subject:= Re: [lojban] blood - jgina

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 04:01:41PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> I'= ;ve been thinking that "blood", as in "I have no Indian bloo= d", should be
> translated as "jgina". Does "na = jgina mi lo ka rindo" sound right? (By
> "Indian" I mean "Native American" here.)
> <= br>> Pierre

That looks like misusage of scientific words to me.Afaik, there are larger differences in gene of people from the
same co= untry than of people from different countries in many cases.

Maybe something like "mi na'e se dzena le liryxa'u"?<= br>What is {rindo} supposed to mean, I can't find it anywhere.

<= br>mi'e la .van. mu'o


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