Received: from mail-vc0-f184.google.com ([209.85.220.184]:56708) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UA2C6-0003OS-1W; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:50:43 -0800 Received: by mail-vc0-f184.google.com with SMTP id gb23sf126951vcb.21 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:50:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=eid+oaIQjl/YBSgRKjEjrGcacU+DJRyogbSogci0Vi4=; b=F0m1tbQ4bbHKYjq1OvUPBJuwCo9TlhSgOxXsOIMmm+9MqiuTresAtO210eMC2XS4ve ONvzr7b5OJermn6jid77ZyZ8oYI1N/SgP8ojLzmUMDjqXEataiNSOx2wyMtANsMnaygJ quGQtPbTFtYivog1iR4o8htZefwPExBO/YWp6C+6FRB+VRnK2xxv9yM8ohdpBebiCPTd Xzu5S63Fx7Shiaaw6RlWYMM3PooM7VMHEnLo22wvtFXyRuSgWhxGfgi8y9KC9kTL0E8G EL3+rA00E6FO+YXAa9KWcrHeFIXBvi5KlQjHkF+d2NIF4I9D6u8Rm9GVQn3z+qlYeaNs odqw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=eid+oaIQjl/YBSgRKjEjrGcacU+DJRyogbSogci0Vi4=; b=MQgmIwYcwCRPBWS/5nyQj4Dkbb/g1SOUZKUjWrGMUSBfJJLCo69H2AuJlCQ1vFQF5l fqJ7bDQVdBuka+kljZxtpo/pJaJ5ChprEM4xUatme/l8lNs1N8Bx41ML3+S9y+QZXAuz j87Ip7Saqq5JOUCnrTmw0R2O+CjHMPDXJ/2Fedy6swG2VfHyOEVknIHo0SjNSzDJEkQh TzGSzw8sW8xYoXVEq+D4IssMeQ7Byb+mAF1EtF1rmtjQ4r1BHL1zwQb5zKIwPq5iqcLt nnbnmLgdisHHzkBNc1uqjDpIi3nD5Zd9jrCIGiTuqzQHOT7QBVUim0tSm7vuFm09w++r u2VQ== X-Received: by 10.50.160.132 with SMTP id xk4mr1139475igb.7.1361814623238; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:50:23 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.182.136 with SMTP id ee8ls608163igc.2.canary; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:50:22 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.161.225 with SMTP id xv1mr1138722igb.15.1361814622141; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:50:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:50:21 -0800 (PST) From: la klaku To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <41996abe-f894-47e9-be57-3c29576240a5@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [lojban] Re: Fixing Wave lessons MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: jakobnybonissen@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_107_31606388.1361814621293" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_107_31606388.1361814621293 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for the feedback. I've made some changes, which will be included the next time I update the lessons. If you find any mistakes in the text, you're welcome to change it directly. Regarding the abstractions si'o, nu and ka, I think they are too advanced to be taught early on. The semantics of them is discussed in lesson 29. I've added a line explaining that: "The meanings of these is a complicated matter, and will be discussed much later, in lesson twenty-nine. For now, you'll have to do without them." In the wave lessons, I've chosen to present tenses simply as sumtcita, even though the grammar for PU is different than for BAI. In the beginning of lesson 10, it says: "No, in the Lojban tense system, all tenses are sumtcita, which we have conveniently just made ourselves familiar with. Okay okay, technically, tenses are slightly different from other sumtcita, but this difference is almost insignificant, and will be won't be explained until later." I've added a sentence: "In most aspects they are like all other sumtcita; they are terminated bu ''ku'', for example.", making it explicit that PU is terminated by ku. mi'e la klaku -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_107_31606388.1361814621293 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the feedback. I've made some changes, which will be included the= next time I update the lessons. If you find any mistakes in the text, you'= re welcome to change it directly.

Regarding the abstractions si'o, n= u and ka, I think they are too advanced to be taught early on. The semantic= s of them is discussed in lesson 29. I've added a line explaining that: "Th= e meanings of these is a complicated matter, and will be discussed much lat= er, in lesson twenty-nine. For now, you'll have to do without them."
In the wave lessons, I've chosen to present tenses simply as sumtcita, eve= n though the grammar for PU is different than for BAI. In the beginning of = lesson 10, it says: "No, in the Lojban tense system, all tenses are sumtcit= a, which we have conveniently just made ourselves familiar with. Okay okay,= technically, tenses are slightly different from other sumtcita, but this d= ifference is almost insignificant, and will be won't be explained until lat= er."

I've added a sentence: "In most aspects they are like all other= sumtcita; they are terminated bu ''ku'', for example.", making it explicit= that PU is terminated by ku.

mi'e la klaku

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