Received: from mail-ve0-f188.google.com ([209.85.128.188]:38633) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UAHeR-0007e7-OU; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:20:55 -0800 Received: by mail-ve0-f188.google.com with SMTP id pb11sf1843735veb.15 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:20:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mT3y69TA5Gf36ZSpiBGp2k+m5/Gr4dkBfr54eQlsZQY=; b=fbZxukPKXPs0HmmTEZffiRG4XiHE04FMmbqrZBlIXqDdLb+90mwMHQNlEbxrjP5KaK 77gTF3UGoiLuhki9G76E4OBL4YJrBR4NQkLryRzUtrn+msW0e+qQayYM7ZeK5FLEbmAl rVNvJ09zg9A5fihkr/RM0UyUxb9zwQwLefbIfeptCo9sfUH4uA9AYlvvv9UXZ9OKD9oM bmOJi7G4SU7thb2zbOyFR8aMWgXhJOqP04sx1jvSOZ23q9Qg/tfa9cH/HnpaiUImyw05 SN3n88vyAbiKryyad8e8IfOP/KoNQo7m5k33dIvXAolqeZYOshEBKbmCaKgh0Fnw38J5 6qjA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mT3y69TA5Gf36ZSpiBGp2k+m5/Gr4dkBfr54eQlsZQY=; b=qivbW1/DpySJFsFwixQjt+skY6qXX6UgEWA1wtzXytmgltiogY8dcz8HrgJwwnEvHT wdfjLZc8/WxZctr0RawupvtS00v8EAh3CxJkDTb3wRq5vmsOPnTYPF7lEv9lZtS9IN6K FHzeK2srBLf8GOe79YxbakuzC91f0c8XEOi6r/kTeM+FHGd9TDuuF6JEORMTYtM0Opfx XI/QEGkNjn6r0sXJPMh8mUvLqzHvtEuhsDFEsLjGlPt4AiGKJzXfMBEqS4svwiEqaOwV AIoNMjFX99bAxLN908dOts310IkaXZFDSKFFl6L/C4tk54EmRwNlDSVusfJqSLiqripW fTLw== X-Received: by 10.49.58.167 with SMTP id s7mr1249064qeq.5.1361874037332; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:20:37 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.25.168 with SMTP id d8ls1042696qeg.15.gmail; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:20:36 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.39.99 with SMTP id o3mr1237286qek.14.1361874036754; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:20:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 02:20:36 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <75d6723a-b95c-4a9a-9935-51f5f376073e@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <41996abe-f894-47e9-be57-3c29576240a5@googlegroups.com> References: <41996abe-f894-47e9-be57-3c29576240a5@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Fixing Wave lessons MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_153_6751863.1361874036480" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_153_6751863.1361874036480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:50:21 PM UTC+4, la klaku wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback. I've made some changes, which will be included > the next time I update the lessons. If you find any mistakes in the text, > you're welcome to change it directly. > How long are we supposed to wait for the changes? (sorry i really don't know the algorithm of updating the lessons. I just note that people are complaining) > > Regarding the abstractions si'o, nu and ka, I think they are too advanced > to be taught early on. The semantics of them is discussed in lesson 29. > I've added a line explaining that: "The meanings of these is a complicated > matter, and will be discussed much later, in lesson twenty-nine. For now, > you'll have to do without them." > > In the wave lessons, I've chosen to present tenses simply as sumtcita, > even though the grammar for PU is different than for BAI. In the beginning > of lesson 10, it says: "No, in the Lojban tense system, all tenses are > sumtcita, which we have conveniently just made ourselves familiar with. > Okay okay, technically, tenses are slightly different from other sumtcita, > but this difference is almost insignificant, and will be won't be explained > until later." > > I've added a sentence: "In most aspects they are like all other sumtcita; > they are terminated bu ''ku'', for example.", making it explicit that PU is > terminated by ku. > > mi'e la klaku > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. 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On Monday, February 25, 2013 9:50:21 PM UTC+4, la klaku wrote:Thanks for the feedback. I've made = some changes, which will be included the next time I update the lessons. If= you find any mistakes in the text, you're welcome to change it directly.

How long are we supposed to wait for the= changes? (sorry i really don't know the algorithm of updating the lessons.= I just note that people are complaining) 

Regarding the abstractions si'o, nu and ka, I th= ink they are too advanced to be taught early on. The semantics of them is d= iscussed in lesson 29. I've added a line explaining that: "The meanings of = these is a complicated matter, and will be discussed much later, in lesson = twenty-nine. For now, you'll have to do without them."

In the wave l= essons, I've chosen to present tenses simply as sumtcita, even though the g= rammar for PU is different than for BAI. In the beginning of lesson 10, it = says: "No, in the Lojban tense system, all tenses are sumtcita, which we ha= ve conveniently just made ourselves familiar with. Okay okay, technically, = tenses are slightly different from other sumtcita, but this difference is a= lmost insignificant, and will be won't be explained until later."

I'= ve added a sentence: "In most aspects they are like all other sumtcita; the= y are terminated bu ''ku'', for example.", making it explicit that PU is te= rminated by ku.

mi'e la klaku

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