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Subject: Re: [lojban] jbovlaste doesn't want to accept some fuhivla
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On Wednesday, March 06, 2013 20:50:47 la gleki wrote:
> Strange suggestion. If a word is possible in Lojban why shouldn't it be in
> jvs? And if a word isn't possible in Lojban why jvs can accept it?
> Waiting for jvs to be fixed is another technical question.
> Do you mean we should just wait for someone to fix jvs or do you suggest
> avoiding such words forever?

Jbovlaste uses vlatai (part of the no-longer-maintained jbofi'e suite) to 
decide whether a word is valid. Jbofi'e has some bugs (it does not accept 
"martio", "prilio", "madjio", "djunio", "djulio", or "damskrima", the last 
being someone's attempt at "eskrima" or "dambrskrima") and some disagreements 
with camxes (it does accept "tarksako")

Camxes accepts "ried" but not "cried" as a syllable. Thus "bacriedgo" is 
syllabified as "bac,ried,go", but "criedgo" fails. The rules are looser for 
cmevla; camxes accepts "kriofl" but rejects "kriofla". (Which annoys me a bit, 
as I use the stuff in my henna mix and don't know what else to call it in 
Lojban. Camxes doesn't accept "kri'ofla", because it's a slinku'i.)

I had an argument with Nick Nicholas years ago. I said "fasxolarto", thinking 
at the time that "rkt" within a word was invalid, and he didn't recognize it, 
but would have recognized "fasxolarkto". When I wrote valfendi, I considered 
"fasxolarkto" valid. Camxes considers it invalid.

Another corner case is "aierne". I suggest "ai'erne" as a camxes-compatible 
variant.

Pierre
-- 
ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji

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