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On Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:16:06 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, March 06, 2013 20:50:47 la gleki wrote: 
> > Strange suggestion. If a word is possible in Lojban why shouldn't it be 
> in 
> > jvs? And if a word isn't possible in Lojban why jvs can accept it? 
> > Waiting for jvs to be fixed is another technical question. 
> > Do you mean we should just wait for someone to fix jvs or do you suggest 
> > avoiding such words forever? 
>
> Jbovlaste uses vlatai (part of the no-longer-maintained jbofi'e suite) to 
> decide whether a word is valid. Jbofi'e has some bugs (it does not accept 
> "martio", "prilio", "madjio", "djunio", "djulio", or "damskrima", the last 
> being someone's attempt at "eskrima" or "dambrskrima") and some 
> disagreements 
> with camxes (it does accept "tarksako") 
>
> Camxes accepts "ried" but not "cried" as a syllable. Thus "bacriedgo" is 
> syllabified as "bac,ried,go", but "criedgo" fails. The rules are looser 
> for 
> cmevla; camxes accepts "kriofl" but rejects "kriofla". (Which annoys me a 
> bit, 
> as I use the stuff in my henna mix and don't know what else to call it in 
> Lojban. Camxes doesn't accept "kri'ofla", because it's a slinku'i.) 
>
> I had an argument with Nick Nicholas years ago. I said "fasxolarto", 
> thinking 
> at the time that "rkt" within a word was invalid, and he didn't recognize 
> it, 
> but would have recognized "fasxolarkto". When I wrote valfendi, I 
> considered 
> "fasxolarkto" valid. Camxes considers it invalid. 
>
> Another corner case is "aierne". I suggest "ai'erne" as a 
> camxes-compatible 
> variant. 
>


Pardon, so to say in short do you mean that camxes is not the standard?
 

>
> Pierre 
> -- 
> ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji 
>
>

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<br><br>On Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:16:06 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:<b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;borde=
r-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On Wednesday, March 06, 2013 20:=
50:47 la gleki wrote:
<br>&gt; Strange suggestion. If a word is possible in Lojban why shouldn't =
it be in
<br>&gt; jvs? And if a word isn't possible in Lojban why jvs can accept it?
<br>&gt; Waiting for jvs to be fixed is another technical question.
<br>&gt; Do you mean we should just wait for someone to fix jvs or do you s=
uggest
<br>&gt; avoiding such words forever?
<br>
<br>Jbovlaste uses vlatai (part of the no-longer-maintained jbofi'e suite) =
to=20
<br>decide whether a word is valid. Jbofi'e has some bugs (it does not acce=
pt=20
<br>"martio", "prilio", "madjio", "djunio", "djulio", or "damskrima", the l=
ast=20
<br>being someone's attempt at "eskrima" or "dambrskrima") and some disagre=
ements=20
<br>with camxes (it does accept "tarksako")
<br>
<br>Camxes accepts "ried" but not "cried" as a syllable. Thus "bacriedgo" i=
s=20
<br>syllabified as "bac,ried,go", but "criedgo" fails. The rules are looser=
 for=20
<br>cmevla; camxes accepts "kriofl" but rejects "kriofla". (Which annoys me=
 a bit,=20
<br>as I use the stuff in my henna mix and don't know what else to call it =
in=20
<br>Lojban. Camxes doesn't accept "kri'ofla", because it's a slinku'i.)
<br>
<br>I had an argument with Nick Nicholas years ago. I said "fasxolarto", th=
inking=20
<br>at the time that "rkt" within a word was invalid, and he didn't recogni=
ze it,=20
<br>but would have recognized "fasxolarkto". When I wrote valfendi, I consi=
dered=20
<br>"fasxolarkto" valid. Camxes considers it invalid.
<br>
<br>Another corner case is "aierne". I suggest "ai'erne" as a camxes-compat=
ible=20
<br>variant.
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Pardon, so to say in sh=
ort do you mean that camxes is not the standard?</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-=
left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>Pierre
<br>--=20
<br>ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji
<br>
<br></blockquote>

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