Received: from mail-ea0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:46873) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UEo1W-0006Gn-F5; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:43:32 -0700 Received: by mail-ea0-f189.google.com with SMTP id f10sf790741eak.26 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:43:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-authenticated :x-provags-id:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=NunNmIc+hctZOw3n9V0bnVvc/a+iUwiNUGbqDbG/kBo=; b=jgfpHEYe9z3CwNfVTrT7yQx+x+cDgSg/3reJ9+3JxZVMlN0YCNmKYBoXJb3XnC4rTU UnO5Pr3SZWsp3edNERc2RGX705cIufzxZTxuc86uyRzuV+Wx2UCaGcU5cK1LRzuuzNo1 ZW2jmD9D6+15OphPqqQdZHrlkA6lmz+FPGyTyqvhc2d4kaiXhxh4Om2+fBvQzFPgHmXJ AdDB14+CZRkxUxDJK3OAf6zO+BpxKKi1dweoS40Vkgu8MzMVYfAdnye8YX/W7SPR2V03 mC6dRNWyqJFqL1DyZU+doCCXGKtRTmvmssUlA6CGBMBcXGKdNkl0tq7EcSHWzUQT9KAa iygQ== X-Received: by 10.180.183.66 with SMTP id ek2mr531333wic.8.1362951789936; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:43:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.8.70 with SMTP id p6ls392158wia.27.gmail; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:43:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.14.149.138 with SMTP id x10mr10442894eej.5.1362951788976; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net. [212.227.17.22]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 6si4069118eej.0.2013.03.10.14.43.08; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.22; Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.28]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MAAjv-1U42VR2fhh-00BJ8n for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:43:08 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Mar 2013 21:43:08 -0000 Received: from p54AF408A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.2.100]) [84.175.64.138] by mail.gmx.net (mp028) with SMTP; 10 Mar 2013 22:43:08 +0100 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+3FF0AO1q3HPKxYF+zYBpqJwucHKVmdgPnpi1lFy R6GHFrXCybjs2i Message-ID: <513CFE6D.8060501@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:43:09 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: "into", as in "into the toilet". References: <20130310184846.GG18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <1737897.dyDt4LYI0H@caracal> In-Reply-To: <1737897.dyDt4LYI0H@caracal> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la .pier. cu cusku di'e > On Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:48:46 Robin Lee Powell wrote: >> How do I say "please pee in the toilet" or "don't pee on the >> ground"? {fa'a} and {ne'i} both apply to the action of the main >> bridi, right? So {.e'o do pinca fa'a/ne'i/??? le vimstizu} means >> something rather a lot different (and, in fact, {pinca fa'a le >> vimstizu} is exactly the problem we had earlier today!). >> >> I don't remember how to fix this; help? > > I think you want "mo'ine'i", but "do pinca" is wrong. It should be "do > pincyvi'i" or "do vikmi". "do se pinca" is also true, but doesn't denote the > action. {mo'i ne'i} doesn't work, since it would mean that the event of the baby peeing (for example) is moving, which is not true, as the baby is stationary. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.