Received: from mail-ea0-f188.google.com ([209.85.215.188]:43026) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UEo3X-0006J1-AP; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:45:31 -0700 Received: by mail-ea0-f188.google.com with SMTP id g14sf808012eak.15 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-authenticated :x-provags-id:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Q2CG22VPjeWqI/y0qEy7caj9hy1to0a59LsvA/ieKug=; b=b7I/nSCgi95if3ewzW32vo8EA5+JVrnFHEVdQatpJVPJ/RxMyhkvHaFUMJb0zVEAnW arpmmrSufSza1BD3NVR8pa94TzDAkg/DMDVdMrv+PmLLvrt84XtP7DJ+BUBpiiJoespJ 9TTRRSKf/lfUhvwn98Weji+JB+SkWAZvIf891ni7+o+OZtaS7+1GKD/S7YRk/X8Mq9l/ kZX/LQvdmO4TWSzHhYGQ9RWViTNS+rJgfcGfrV0bLqnCwaXPDX7dcUfpKfCSEJ5p04hj EJmpV92pSF4tG+jU6cAQyEpRvmJKQin1YHqZ9tAm67ncEnanQ/saaWN++6AkqKBB8XJ8 LumQ== X-Received: by 10.180.85.129 with SMTP id h1mr531793wiz.5.1362951915598; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.108.212 with SMTP id hm20ls403870wib.16.gmail; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.14.0.196 with SMTP id 44mr10445454eeb.4.1362951915173; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net. [212.227.15.19]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 47si4069575eeh.1.2013.03.10.14.45.15; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.15.19; Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.27]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MfTEr-1UQXDN2xER-00P7lN for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:45:14 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Mar 2013 21:45:14 -0000 Received: from p54AF408A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.2.100]) [84.175.64.138] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 10 Mar 2013 22:45:14 +0100 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+aNg16UTuaWu3f/fgNg2hxPFOOUVwbb8JOY0h6DX 6aMnwwufV6nKMO Message-ID: <513CFEEB.4080209@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:45:15 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: fixing past actions. References: <20130310184951.GH18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20130310184951.GH18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e > I don't often get totally stumped when speaking to the babies these > days, but I found myself wanting to say: > > "the fact that you put it back doesn't change/fix/erase that you > took it in the first place" How about: .i se gu do xrugau gi do pu lebna "Whether or not you return it, you still took it." Adjust the tenses as needed. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.