Received: from mail-qe0-f56.google.com ([209.85.128.56]:38309) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UFAyh-0007N3-R3; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:14:11 -0700 Received: by mail-qe0-f56.google.com with SMTP id nd7sf1937420qeb.11 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:13:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=MSqBDhM6+va48uPty7qwKkK2KDjAF7EePksRvaNHPf0=; b=ZW46L9R+i3WDxG8jdCw0JF2kiYWrR2ezGJNa5xwfKaWdYYgCOHln1/sz8s/TM7ldkB OCZ+N6pocXqnsMFaIlKnU+G40Y24zgrAvDt5bz+M2uljAS58K64zNJPW727FA4UH7Whe zp4ZfUPrwH9trXefFOyvFv0XjEqVPcJVlp7DmrSLYAKrGpO7jzoKMyIrgSz0KBKapIr2 YoWLeR+/inYXAkNkaf+r1yAhrbPE6xcQQqmrbWycpHprJCLI/49oHg7LnYqEFsXN+rsL zTT60elSgfnlt3FM+gw+ljQHU5zc+cM+6ySYsDapMFsLhw+JbqFwW9/axayh0ZE6utRp ZTxg== X-Received: by 10.50.41.166 with SMTP id g6mr1423163igl.14.1363040028943; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:13:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.209.69 with SMTP id mk5ls1598546igc.37.gmail; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:13:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.68.136.104 with SMTP id pz8mr8639326pbb.3.1363040027889; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ir9si312853pbc.1.2013.03.11.15.13.47 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UFAyY-0007My-Eq for lojban@googlegroups.com; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:13:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:13:46 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: "into", as in "into the toilet". Message-ID: <20130311221346.GM18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20130310184846.GG18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <1737897.dyDt4LYI0H@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1737897.dyDt4LYI0H@caracal> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 03:30:47PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:48:46 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > How do I say "please pee in the toilet" or "don't pee on the > > ground"? {fa'a} and {ne'i} both apply to the action of the main > > bridi, right? So {.e'o do pinca fa'a/ne'i/??? le vimstizu} > > means something rather a lot different (and, in fact, {pinca > > fa'a le vimstizu} is exactly the problem we had earlier today!). > > > > I don't remember how to fix this; help? > > I think you want "mo'ine'i", I thought that didn't work, because the speaker isn't moving? > but "do pinca" is wrong. It should be "do pincyvi'i" or "do > vikmi". "do se pinca" is also true, but doesn't denote the action. Erm, yes. I do, in fact, use {do vikmi} or {do se pinca}; {do pinca} was a mistake here, not a mistake I normally make in speaking. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.