Received: from mail-qa0-f63.google.com ([209.85.216.63]:53095) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UFB5U-0007SG-NZ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:21:09 -0700 Received: by mail-qa0-f63.google.com with SMTP id bv4sf1241703qab.18 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:20:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=6N/h97ImnTuKaZxSMBXCL1+UzIkw8yEdSuivQbbzfYs=; b=XywnW6NaGBrdwykHLLWfaCRtBoztQ0NRPdv0wwM330z4UOlWT89WvlNU9hXcBbbcUy o1EeClkx+aTNqNqXzBlQD48RyZ8k2qsBRRDD0zDLyH63ug/ias3N9Dr/gf44e1Z8twoy txuhkkXy4pGFZVnsWG7WAosEl74nUJoi8kMTzmELJUu+KDJ4ll5tGBB9ggYy8ttQcFeN YYbj8ggjfKWeUbIGohULCz7I8u2njdiXgK49cGwipnZ/V8gLhcVlO+PTujzlK3y3jCrI VSDBZPdjKXKO0CvR5PCtJr9NaipvyoilE+UVfwZKPGOKDnvMeYLtsuCNHAy36zT6dp0b nMIw== X-Received: by 10.50.150.180 with SMTP id uj20mr1437368igb.7.1363040449533; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:20:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.13.229 with SMTP id k5ls1651607igc.1.gmail; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:20:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.68.161.163 with SMTP id xt3mr8649607pbb.7.1363040448665; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ir9si319409pbc.1.2013.03.11.15.20.48 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UFB5K-0007S9-Qn for lojban@googlegroups.com; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:20:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:20:46 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: WTH? (was Re: [lojban] Baby words: "into", as in "into the toilet".) Message-ID: <20130311222046.GO18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20130310184846.GG18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <1737897.dyDt4LYI0H@caracal> <7928068.ZPjStzVR3b@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7928068.ZPjStzVR3b@caracal> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 08:31:17PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday, March 10, 2013 20:45:18 tijlan wrote: > > mo'ine'i pinca ko > > Make yours a pee-moving-into! > > iesai 0.o Am I completely confused about how tenses work? {ba klama le zarci} does *not* mean that *the zarci* is in the future, it means the action (going to the market) occurs in the future. I *thought* that {vi klama le zarci} meant that the action of going to the market occurs nearby. If I'm right, {mo'ine'i pinca ko} is "pee whilst moving inwards", like if you were telling a dog to scent mark whilst entering a cave. Seriously, I'm disturbed by this conversation, because either I'm badly wrong or Pierre is, and neither possibility fills me with joy. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.