Received: from mail-qe0-f58.google.com ([209.85.128.58]:37192) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UFBF1-0007aY-Ek; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:30:58 -0700 Received: by mail-qe0-f58.google.com with SMTP id x7sf1999934qeu.3 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:30:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ipJGUu4Vcyo9Gtn0dVNYbq4b+q9XYKQLD1nuJypLQqg=; b=zQX59315T6vF3XU3UlTE0OcpewzPnpIJPHgsGrr45Xg8+8tBlQraIdTscIs4xT96MJ xVmQa1wa23TiycINyXleBMtjtpCmpfxQQOpkMgchGKu0BCI1+V8eZd0G60soarOyDsJ8 eeCMot3jbblFltOuy36Khj0GAQuARD5orikwTKwasUNmbhnAdy4Q8eKq2P4emxZVcD2T jaOIU8l77qQqrJp4xQTfS8mt6DGQJa6stgJ2w+ZkyZmLGP5zh0AkVBvUG0b8hxVhJt2t ME8u9KE0hM/3vSmt+VDjXycMMVbBO2dut+QIZTXSXls4gZBApZiM++rmGMk1znq7wMOb VxxA== X-Received: by 10.50.53.166 with SMTP id c6mr1420121igp.12.1363041040702; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:30:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.13.5 with SMTP id d5ls1648070igc.32.canary; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:30:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.68.234.202 with SMTP id ug10mr8665023pbc.6.1363041040122; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ir9si329438pbc.1.2013.03.11.15.30.40 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:30:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UFBEt-0007Zf-0N for lojban@googlegroups.com; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:30:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:30:38 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: "into", as in "into the toilet". Message-ID: <20130311223038.GT18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20130310184846.GG18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <513D05FA.4040507@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <513D05FA.4040507@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:15:22PM +0100, selpa'i wrote: >=20 > These two can be combined, to make the first one a little more > precise: >=20 > pincyvi'i fa'a ne'i lo vimstizu > pee towards the inside of the toilet I was going to say that fa'a doesn't work, but you're right; {fa'a} is only about *facing* of the speaker, not about motion or anything. But doesn't {fa'a ne'i lo vimstizu} have an imaginary journey of the speaker facing and then entering the toilet? > When this is not enough, there are other options =97 I'll list some > that first come to mind below, I'm sure there are many more > options. >=20 > It might sound funny, but maybe {renro} isn't too bad? At least it > has a destination place. If we're going to do that, I prefer cecla! :D > There is also: >=20 > .e'o do pincyvi'i fau lo nu lo pinci cu tolcliva lo vimstizu nenri This may be the first correct use of fau I've ever seen. :D I snipped the others because I had no further useful commentary; see elsewhere in the thread for some other interesting options. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li= 'u --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. 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