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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: tl;dr: jbopatfu is stressed; skip down to the bullet points to see how you can help. For those of you who don't know: I'm raising twin daughters, and I am speaking Lojban to them almost exclusively (no-one else is). [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid tl;dr: jbopatfu is stressed; skip down to the bullet points to see how you can help. For those of you who don't know: I'm raising twin daughters, and I am speaking Lojban to them almost exclusively (no-one else is). In the course of raising the jbocifnu, recently I feel like there's this barrier between me and the next level of fluency, and the only thing I can think of to fix it is listening. In particular: it's too fucknig hard for me to learn words. While it's not as easy as it was when I was a kid, I still can pick up words very easily in English, Lojban is *much* harder. The place structures only explains a small part of that. The (comparatively) great effort involved in speaking Lojban and learning vocab is starting to upset me; I expected to be past that by now. On top of that, my life has become *very* overwhelmingly busy; it's been hard lately to just be calm about life in general. It's very easy for me to look at my life and go "What would give me a bunch more time?" and come back with "not speaking Lojban to my children", but I don't want to go that route. So, here's some things that might maybe help. They're not especially reasonble, but quite frankly, I feel like the community owes me at this point. 0. Be *gentle*. I need people to gently, softly cajole me an a lot of this stuff. That means even though I asked you to bug me to do X, I'm usually going to say no. Be nice about it. 1. I want to hear more of the language. I think *listening* might help me level up. Make or find voice recordings. Make it very very easy for me by sending me simple links to MP3s (dropbox.com is good for hosting this sort of thing, by the way) of Lojban speaking that doesn't obviously suck; it doesn't have to be great, but it should be longer than 5 minutes, please. Collecting a bunch of short bits together would be fine. 2. I've fallen out of the habit of being involved in Lojban stuff, and especially chat on a regular basis. Come find me in #lojban and try to engage me in conversation. 3. Find me in #lojban and see if I'll voice chat. If we do, be prepared for me to go at my own pace. Constantly repeating is very tiring. Feel free to make suggestions as to how you can help. Thanks. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.