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[212.227.17.22]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 47si5266459eeh.1.2013.03.11.16.22.42; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.22; Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.32]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ME0kj-1TyP5J12Y3-00HNdW for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:22:42 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Mar 2013 23:22:42 -0000 Received: from p54AF47C5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.2.100]) [84.175.71.197] by mail.gmx.net (mp032) with SMTP; 12 Mar 2013 00:22:42 +0100 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18xW0EhiaExV/5jN9VzmGmPUFeB2VDh9R1gJTbGj/ X8eHCh0Q24B6+P Message-ID: <513E6743.6070107@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 00:22:43 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: "into", as in "into the toilet". References: <20130310184846.GG18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <513D05FA.4040507@gmx.de> <20130311223038.GT18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20130311223038.GT18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la .camgusmi. cu cusku di'e > On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:15:22PM +0100, selpa'i wrote: >> >> These two can be combined, to make the first one a little more >> precise: >> >> pincyvi'i fa'a ne'i lo vimstizu >> pee towards the inside of the toilet > > I was going to say that fa'a doesn't work, but you're right; {fa'a} > is only about *facing* of the speaker, not about motion or anything. Facing of the event, not the speaker. > But doesn't {fa'a ne'i lo vimstizu} have an imaginary journey of > the speaker facing and then entering the toilet? There is no movement indicated here, only orientation and location. fa'a combines with other FAhA to make compounds much like the mo'i FAhA=20 compounds, but indicating orientation towards that FAhA; fa'a ne'i means=20 "facing the inside". >> When this is not enough, there are other options =97 I'll list some >> that first come to mind below, I'm sure there are many more >> options. >> >> It might sound funny, but maybe {renro} isn't too bad? At least it >> has a destination place. > > If we're going to do that, I prefer cecla! :D I was going to suggest that, but then didn't. .u'i mu'o mi'e la selpa'i --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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