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[212.227.17.20]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id fo9si1406788qcb.0.2013.03.12.04.06.59; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:06:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.20; Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.10]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LZk7m-1Ucd3O3m8K-00lTbS for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:06:58 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Mar 2013 11:06:58 -0000 Received: from p54AF474B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.2.100]) [84.175.71.75] by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 12 Mar 2013 12:06:58 +0100 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+uFVBw2RWuaTjNvj0K06u8A3+zs4M7yf3MVYQ15P mv97UxN40DOFqG Message-ID: <513F0C52.6020908@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:06:58 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] jbopatfu needs help. References: <20130311231600.GV18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20130311231600.GV18336@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e > 1. I want to hear more of the language. I think *listening* might > help me level up. Make or find voice recordings. Make it very very > easy for me by sending me simple links to MP3s (dropbox.com is good > for hosting this sort of thing, by the way) of Lojban speaking that > doesn't obviously suck; it doesn't have to be great, but it should > be longer than 5 minutes, please. Collecting a bunch of short bits > together would be fine. This is something everyone can do. Pick one of the texts on=20 www.lojban.org/tiki/Texts+In+Lojban and record it. It's not difficult,=20 it does not take long. Yet, it helps everyone a lot. Listening is the most fundamental part of language learning; How are we=20 supposed to get fluent speakers without the most essential ingredient =97= =20 extensive exposure to audio? Please help out. > 2. I've fallen out of the habit of being involved in Lojban stuff, > and especially chat on a regular basis. Come find me in #lojban and > try to engage me in conversation. This goes for everyone. Meet us in #lojban and practice. You don't learn=20 a language just by thinking about learning it. > 3. Find me in #lojban and see if I'll voice chat. If we do, be > prepared for me to go at my own pace. Constantly repeating is very > tiring. We hang out on mumble now and then. It would be nice to have these voice=20 chats more often, but of course it's hard to arrange fixed dates. A good=20 strategy would be for more people to simply lurk on mumble to show=20 _presence_. It has to become a given that there are always people=20 hanging out on mumble, just like there are always people in #lojban. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. 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