Received: from mail-ve0-f188.google.com ([209.85.128.188]:58277) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UHDWQ-0006ix-Qv; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 06:21:21 -0700 Received: by mail-ve0-f188.google.com with SMTP id pb11sf1996321veb.15 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 06:21:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-received :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=Untsx7nYJdey81zk6ZbUCQBokpjt3mHl7wcb+UX9j2c=; b=Dbm2bhp2ZFsJKSlsqWvMLAlgi8q460wmI1qZLh4nft7C1k/XdmCvKWztyE3Un6mWoy lx5uK1h+Fz2RfS1H/Gfj2R0A5cbFLNPJAz3a74QTfXKZazeUtlMe313xAQB/sODZ1LFS +pMj1X2RqdZ4Wm5h2a8U4FFK9f/qXI2TzBh+mCbzTUM0sHujhUQbVOfGSdmUlOIXof2m 2xFFn3FnLl2dtZ6YbUSTaVfpBM1oDGfP41K0WOtD5Mpar9iEGHuLGZUQdmEyhyEO44Gk TzEhg5/i+ao8Ch/wDU3nInm4j9PfW3yc8sfGBEKUrbGwbumM1vbTnhTy57uaF0xD97KX ZAjQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-received :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=Untsx7nYJdey81zk6ZbUCQBokpjt3mHl7wcb+UX9j2c=; b=XS4AWoMeo0Tm4dBuL0rDwQwrvk/Xq9e9R1eynqB+c3wRtdyX61Lqlsv+z9eRA4dfXo vxEWmmLtOWaczj8+ry07RhjNbXefwOSsN72GnXUpGE9WkWqY9mDX7fOHjwQWA5rM7ANC Pj6SN+ZNJLWI/Fb+lgRXd+OQyRiI5DN7prDlpCgBOHSCTacKUsY6J/o9SUS3ZYkBb3i6 oVnQRJnyjgzR5GUfxyBtQAG2z7Q+CXUxk0qKOvgnbvq1SrnDYHkLOaPLE3FlEbig33xE TRjqqW/AYjbeAMvReauDy2k8b5yu+fwTUpR0QhjrH6LMY5HIEIX8Vtn7XVM+P/52BT0I uyVA== X-Received: by 10.49.71.50 with SMTP id r18mr1035454qeu.26.1363526463976; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 06:21:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.63.231 with SMTP id j7ls996209qes.88.gmail; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 06:21:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.58.118.8 with SMTP id ki8mr10526828veb.38.1363526463035; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 06:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-x22f.google.com (mail-vb0-x22f.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t20si1692544vdf.0.2013.03.17.06.21.03 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Mar 2013 06:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22f; Received: by mail-vb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id e21so2780142vbm.6 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 06:21:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.52.176.65 with SMTP id cg1mr13311111vdc.1.1363526462921; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 06:21:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.188.116 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 06:20:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: MorphemeAddict Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:20:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] sutra/masno by standard To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f382c76e3a004d81ebee8 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf307f382c76e3a004d81ebee8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Betsemes wrote: > Of any concept I can think of, the concept of a standard to make a > distinction between fast and slow comes to my mind; so I've been > wondering whether or not I'm missing something about fast/slow > concepts or whether or not the concept of a standard is relevant to > these terms. Was human evolution fast or slow? Is the flight of a > peregrin falcon fast or slow? Is a car riding through a school zone > fast or slow? What if it's riding at 35mph through a school zone? What > if it's riding at 35mph on a highway? > It seems pretty straightforward to me. For a standard you can say "compared to X", "in situation Y". E.g., human evolution is fast compared to geological evolution or slow compared to social evolution. Peregrin falcons are fast compared to most birds. A car going through a school zone is slow compared to normal road traffic, but fast compared to foot traffic. 35 mph is (too) fast in a school zone or residential area, but slow compared to normal highway speeds. stevo > > mu'o mi'e betsemes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:50 AM, Betseme= s <betsemes@gmail.com> wrote:
Of any concept I can think of, the concept of a standard to make a
distinction between fast and slow comes to my mind; so I've been
wondering whether or not I'm missing something about fast/slow
concepts or whether or not the concept of a standard is relevant to
these terms. Was human evolution fast or slow? Is the flight of a
peregrin falcon fast or slow? Is a car riding through a school zone
fast or slow? What if it's riding at 35mph through a school zone? What<= br> if it's riding at 35mph on a highway?

It seems pretty straightforward to me. For a standard you can say "= compared to X", "in situation Y".
E.g., human evol= ution is fast compared to geological evolution or slow compared to social e= volution.
Peregrin falcons are fast compared to most birds.
A car goin= g through a school zone is slow compared to normal road traffic, but fast c= ompared to foot traffic.=A0
35 mph is (too) fast in a school zone= or residential area, but slow compared to normal highway speeds.=A0

stevo

mu'o mi'e betsemes

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