Received: from mail-vb0-f55.google.com ([209.85.212.55]:61519) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UHacP-00069o-C4; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:01:09 -0700 Received: by mail-vb0-f55.google.com with SMTP id fc21sf2696051vbb.0 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:00:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-authenticated-user:x-originating-ip:from:to :subject:date:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:x-spam-score :x-spam_score:x-spam_score_int:x-spam_bar:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mChjWT3vijctBykW7rlUo95e1iwgteTzMgOl0ZecdhE=; b=mBMIZzbLSQCp/32JyFq27eR/eFoxct69jX0zdNLVRj/G8aLOo4XjS60IgVNR7f0TVs RnNL+NXigBYJyj2Wa3dlt5U+kPrxyfC+Go15J5blnbozk5uK90mRItJMOCVtX8MtWYXt fa7/w3j/GrgmO7ZsPzg22nD+Wtkk0zKSJYALjsUBIqNv2LMKk02hbSXulmfRyBAUn3h7 T910hF4pkSQQOkx7ZyzcHMN1lC4sqjAWygBki++bwzE24asOtjvTrRs+xNRiQp2476QX yhqbfNopuyDI5OaMFAtQjNI/hTKLwSA64FMcDXiMG5CM9IPKgxRJDsibdrWE2qN9Fi/x fukw== X-Received: by 10.50.6.135 with SMTP id b7mr1207826iga.9.1363615246223; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:00:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.209.69 with SMTP id mk5ls1074332igc.37.gmail; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:00:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.168.14 with SMTP id zs14mr655239pab.3.1363615245233; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cu1si3282213pbc.1.2013.03.18.07.00.45 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.236 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UHacF-00069j-8Z for lojban@googlegroups.com; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:00:43 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]:38431) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UHac8-00069Q-7S for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:00:42 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=TO3HuiZa c=1 sm=0 a=sqYj6zCFaLTNQ95sbP+eeQ==:17 a=W3V8cEvdJLQA:10 a=1wfwBGJGynAA:10 a=Yr05hP5UdKEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=66VGXo2VTnYA:10 a=AM0pyNZSK2IYSAu-kMMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=sqYj6zCFaLTNQ95sbP+eeQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 69.132.98.107 Received: from [69.132.98.107] ([69.132.98.107:46539] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 05/6A-06772-DFD17415; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:00:29 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:8:42:1036:2bb0:8fed:d75f]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B1756C3 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:00:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] according to Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:00:28 -0400 Message-ID: <2456930.oZJB8i4mUH@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-38-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.236 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / "du'o" is glossed "according to". It's quite common, though, for the object of "according to" to be someone who doesn't know it for certain, but asserts it to be true, maybe to the best of his knowledge, but maybe he's lying. This is better expressed by "fi'o xusra", which doesn't have a corresponding word in BAI. How about "xu'a" as an experimental cmavo for "fi'o xusra"? Pierre -- gau do li'i co'e kei do -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.