Received: from mail-vc0-f190.google.com ([209.85.220.190]:39628) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UHbbU-0006mq-JL; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:04:09 -0700 Received: by mail-vc0-f190.google.com with SMTP id ht11sf1781174vcb.17 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:03:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:cc:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Q80Lx6h9qFG4Q+Jhg7SRewXnLZym9NDegl+ds0kUutE=; b=X020ltDlsfR4JyuXhT98mcraASH2D3CgEctzQ/077SQrbdrH0piTY7gxnuLWzyUCUU dbEy9WjhuIToxGj98BuqMj4vft6ACiObCiGAmPV7yIZ0SUNaOXzxb2LxYOpX3p/0Mcq7 HAVXBWeCGtmG39rIwPW4qHDYuJMlNbl4cj2bK9rr8cDOrWkh5qjuUhAPj67IYDaj10kR 5jRgaipICYwqUOEgimW/mEmfytEo+4ufz+JBjKvbCdwDa1MWRqt+tkat+bisjkqipk17 coUWBnMUo9rWLTWPrlTyhryNu8wByWZajg2aPtrRgr9QWv89Gthx7RSo7fAjvii+ce+8 CZTg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:cc:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Q80Lx6h9qFG4Q+Jhg7SRewXnLZym9NDegl+ds0kUutE=; b=WgSHi1gAarxmPms0jbcB/5Pri9OvLGSNLvrQ9rw7ucKOsqOzIV+7rM3P02sEnL4jjq 1G0WqqSkfXY/6/6CbHwCvRAyMAkZxQbY2JEgC18AyMKOiSVTkXPTe8GQuqpc4p2DbaPt TtOTmcaR6mPVZf7jdWLhy5oz3l9Y+GWZUD8Wcb1PgrjYSosFQUJP+jqJrBPSTXrJYBkC as6M+Tp6qMMY5tk+oFeeNlP1ALgLzpnVpBxsC5G9Vjb+ryiOmMpV16K0PN8ckO9/A9CX pbxeHPQdY2mILkcAOgp+2D4pusW8ZHJUqCBoYX4eZcE+xl9xk+45WAYffd8l59nsKmSn Kwcg== X-Received: by 10.50.33.175 with SMTP id s15mr1265488igi.8.1363619033786; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:03:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.158.225 with SMTP id wx1ls1115974igb.21.canary; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:03:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.161.225 with SMTP id xv1mr1270226igb.15.1363619033000; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:03:51 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2456930.oZJB8i4mUH@caracal> References: <2456930.oZJB8i4mUH@caracal> Subject: [lojban] Re: according to MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_179_22139684.1363619031109" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_179_22139684.1363619031109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Monday, March 18, 2013 6:00:28 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > "du'o" is glossed "according to". It's quite common, though, for the > object of > "according to" to be someone who doesn't know it for certain, but asserts > it > to be true, maybe to the best of his knowledge, but maybe he's lying. This > is > better expressed by "fi'o xusra", which doesn't have a corresponding word > in > BAI. How about "xu'a" as an experimental cmavo for "fi'o xusra"? > sorry for straightforwardness but how about NOT using BAI at all (memorising 64 cmavo is a hard trick for newbies). how about {sei ko'a xusra} ? if u dont agree that {sei} is fine why not define **one** one-syllable cmavo instead of slowly replicating the whole gimste in BAI-space ? > Pierre > -- > gau do li'i co'e kei do > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_179_22139684.1363619031109 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Monday, March 18, 2013 6:00:28 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:"du'o" is glossed "according to". = It's quite common, though, for the object of=20
"according to" to be someone who doesn't know it for certain, but asser= ts it=20
to be true, maybe to the best of his knowledge, but maybe he's lying. T= his is=20
better expressed by "fi'o xusra", which doesn't have a corresponding wo= rd in=20
BAI. How about "xu'a" as an experimental cmavo for "fi'o xusra"?

sorry for straightforwardness but how = about NOT using BAI at all (memorising 64 cmavo is a hard trick for newbies= ).

how about {sei ko'a xusra} ?

if u dont agree that {sei} is fine why not define *one* one-s= yllable cmavo instead of slowly replicating the whole gimste in BAI-space ?=


Pierre
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gau do li'i co'e kei do


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