Received: from mail-qa0-f64.google.com ([209.85.216.64]:47842) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UHdoc-0007YL-JW; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:25:51 -0700 Received: by mail-qa0-f64.google.com with SMTP id cr7sf1485423qab.9 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:25:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=6PB4ub7i9woGj69eu6KaFjxGAiGHvn7lfJmQahSJYco=; b=msbgaLQxlw+2CPuQtGZgkS42BRRRtCMFImHCUhEtQBs1zAwPsYS694DFOVKy5d7q5H DQIZaqllj8iahO5LEtSGcERkZnRWB/taUB/g0uIGhu66BNY8d3QofunLqXqHrRNJ74t4 tWy82vseOjL0M6PD7DFK97ORZAqkuneiavKgUlA++lprgMtXpYGE6w7d8sTemdBkMiTU eHX2r3aIVly/RAiMcq3NSKfwVxNl9yCKTUj2mt/We1vH+T+OVtju1HNGTwaW8Dc9EnBp skzy81DH2TQR0Ly/IDXgQ0sie7fnQTDqxVG2SewRFMPZThlniAlY+0M4h/8nPsogF8l7 ksKA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=6PB4ub7i9woGj69eu6KaFjxGAiGHvn7lfJmQahSJYco=; b=GW/bFZUes+wcgAw1gKM6D+R0M6qkqp33582SxJY3hIpiXxvmmu7mIxP0OouDjz+zK6 OiccCxvFU/g1WqZm5xprzNByFfjC8HRixVh90kvSB7IYJ/aJZmD/kH9kqH2quoziI01z 5XcSdjBG9kvlL3gQ5Mel0gvFUBtjRMJqFgd14F7DBCjF8r/KGWsDGFCiaGalYnISlCvW CADHcmmF/MPQYA4cyJBhfRRs17Hjx8wr3uAspsK2+rasNXvl0J6ZsX5V/kHOkYBd8m9Y Bw+kkhivF0/R2zFuS5QOnBFVQItUp4AP+frVqETEYoZAZnATdR8+qMs/BRFzMvXCjOUx hvhw== X-Received: by 10.49.105.163 with SMTP id gn3mr1295026qeb.13.1363627535487; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:25:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.104.203 with SMTP id gg11ls518890qeb.38.gmail; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.127.50 with SMTP id nd18mr1415556qeb.6.1363627534861; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <2f6c0a02-6342-4695-95d9-c23fa9982f04@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] 4 independent "vocabularies" is the biggest problem of lojban. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_541_5513657.1363627534386" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_541_5513657.1363627534386 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm not discovering something new. It's rather a banality. And you can say it's just a small note about lojban. A small note but a big problem imo. The biggest problem of this language is that it has not less than 4 independent lists of words. Let's take {zgana} for example. gismu: zgana short rafsi: zga attitudinal: za'a BAI-cmavo: ga'a In some cases there can be more than one short cmavo. The result is that many people who wish to learn this awesome language are stuck at the level of memorizing those independent, *phonologically underivable from each other *sets of words. It could have been done another way (see gua\spi) but it's a pity that this is a drawback of the most complete and (still !) most popular loglang on the planet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_541_5513657.1363627534386 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not discovering something new. It's rather a banality. And you can say = it's just a small note about lojban. A small note but a big problem imo.
The biggest problem of this language is that it has not less tha= n 4 independent lists of words.

Let's take {= zgana} for example.

gismu: zgana
short r= afsi: zga
attitudinal: za'a
BAI-cmavo: ga'a
<= br>
In some cases there can be more than one short cmavo.
The result is that many people who wish to learn this awesome language &= nbsp;are stuck at the level of memorizing those independent,= phonologically underivable from each other sets of words.=
It could have been done another way (see gua\spi) but it's a pit= y that this is a drawback of the most complete and (still !) most popular l= oglang on the planet.

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