Received: from mail-ve0-f187.google.com ([209.85.128.187]:50454) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UIDCj-0004Zz-F3 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:13:09 -0700 Received: by mail-ve0-f187.google.com with SMTP id oz10sf480684veb.4 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:12:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=145xBkIugTUAKxZKAgiE8jnFMi4q93iGD36okxMehC8=; b=kiiUJEZ6E8tWcPw1M15Sm5PmIBLUIIdp03mYCX6Dl5KPjtZ5Eiu/xoKzCu9/yhGzXZ E6vdllp43nAHE6lH8lez3HW4PSO11gwtO0hiMjEnHM9gE/3jcFyMl8GmhInrkRQ1vsA1 7NV9R+D3glsN0KlanOkL93h++VmysksukRafjwD6DLiXMEZv4WPmxO1A3wpYFrMsRRRX /Cmq7Kv3xwby0FpLoNDwzeF4pDdKMy3DtskCsVYKnTifs6OHVZ+IiGqUONVvMPW8pj+y jNB2topymLk8SS5NA0i3TW2XKRd16w8o0tFzq78mZR7kVkiw3PMnVAk8aCreWZSzCnZi ftdA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=145xBkIugTUAKxZKAgiE8jnFMi4q93iGD36okxMehC8=; b=UfBRErq1Ndciu8V54KaO+y25nJkbJKJN9y+OAoLdNnc85yI0mZA6ef7z5Q1YtsyX9/ yUrdsEAYoRsCfC2n7ArVSOBz9igBsSc5eWGA8Ky6bZGbCnqEospL/MWE1A3v8v1tC26I aB9yhrNe/r/E9RRzzBSDICkjb2oGggaIkWYUFzbrqTTZ0kG8KRoV8nKPMQlebPQk+mPJ zIS4jCymo7TQt070xZ6rZ89h+yOSOIQfqiz0yTR9DGtYpIOEMn60RqM5PeLPKcPokRsX eOys1sq4L/nxHDBKrAoPg4NYKO9/S9iyyrWxxf0mvmZK4JAr22tW1kN73b0Sd0ogInyC jCiw== X-Received: by 10.49.25.105 with SMTP id b9mr456159qeg.14.1363763570990; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:12:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.134.66 with SMTP id pi2ls452218qeb.78.gmail; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:12:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.58.40.51 with SMTP id u19mr4518932vek.16.1363763570056; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-f173.google.com (mail-ve0-f173.google.com [209.85.128.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id wc4si3790148vdb.1.2013.03.20.00.12.50 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.128.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.128.173; Received: by mail-ve0-f173.google.com with SMTP id oz10so1146705veb.18 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:12:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.23.238 with SMTP id p14mr5432121vdf.86.1363763569975; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.58.196.169 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:12:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2456930.oZJB8i4mUH@caracal> References: <2456930.oZJB8i4mUH@caracal> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 07:12:48 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] according to From: tijlan To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paskios@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paskios@gmail.com designates 209.85.128.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paskios@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On 18 March 2013 14:00, Pierre Abbat wrote: > "du'o" is glossed "according to". It's quite common, though, for the object of > "according to" to be someone who doesn't know it for certain, but asserts it > to be true, maybe to the best of his knowledge, but maybe he's lying. This is > better expressed by "fi'o xusra", which doesn't have a corresponding word in > BAI. How about "xu'a" as an experimental cmavo for "fi'o xusra"? What would be the difference from {cu'u}? Also, note that the definition of {xusra} says "can be used for epistemology of authority". Epistemology. That's djuno4. I occasionally use {vedu'o} for "according to". mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.