Received: from mail-pd0-f187.google.com ([209.85.192.187]:58381) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UIfQ9-0007t1-93; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 06:20:52 -0700 Received: by mail-pd0-f187.google.com with SMTP id v10sf488557pde.14 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 06:20:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-received :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=chkxRTVo82LyAl+PUfl8JmgEWZCQ/07hHw1W1RDOjxg=; b=HWhNX/nLBRgYa7syGHvTk7bAP2x1yvzsvCbP2Okc06h0kdI6k5ivYttLpX8Fm9GYwO pxc301TSfbi1DzChPHkgE24jJWHScmPBgl/BojXsAj4hVxFJH0kG9ksPzVgc3bldAq8q 6K/Z/i4crbdPNz3Vti9eDJEpU1UK9GZl0mxyZEn0VF811l4USimRsp49qWzUwpTPSIts 9JiyYs7L7Whw8hGU+b177/iaIilitP+oiZ3ErWsHqO5nVP2XEh58rrSAks6YVwi9wMxB Dg6sbFbiDqrv7oWEGNTV1c/ipHnPfjvz+UlpI81w9pMEu3ggCSEFdOLloQwNgZT/B2zr JotQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-received :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=chkxRTVo82LyAl+PUfl8JmgEWZCQ/07hHw1W1RDOjxg=; b=BlMRIdw8F346+9E/puj1ByglrEHVAt/bq8NAWSbxZgIiXMrVzV/xJZY2UXBWUHkXu7 00fE529dkkZ5LjDRD4b/oObZFvT45Y5sA77nQE2dJI+edgTxoJKky0Tw9RtP4iEieTdx Y7ExyIKtf1iVBI8OAwHPg65p63imAjWHmfpImx71FEorQushlrueZciA7HGDY2veRFU7 wsdC/zodWUf05BuzQEYJ+mAiT8/pqaAHtS56z+0Wo+FalYKfeIkAViANMEb/8P7oyJKP YijU1tBQ1rBreRhU2AytDWn63ISTAe9i9HL4ZsQDtIB+g9h6FuvRCDWvWkZ43wLy716v OYcA== X-Received: by 10.50.187.133 with SMTP id fs5mr301089igc.12.1363872034991; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 06:20:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.53.234 with SMTP id e10ls3136093igp.43.canary; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 06:20:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.42.39.1 with SMTP id f1mr18464761ice.4.1363872034027; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 06:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iw8si299528igc.1.2013.03.21.06.20.33 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Mar 2013 06:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.51; Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id h2so3068774oag.10 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 06:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.118.104 with SMTP id kl8mr6601580obb.54.1363872033775; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 06:20:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.113.200 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 06:20:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jacob Errington Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 09:20:13 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Re: Noun-ness of {vindu} To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044786b517a74d04d86f34db X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d044786b517a74d04d86f34db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Noticed something wrong. On 21 March 2013 09:17, Jacob Errington wrote: > Also, are toxins intrinsically related to their effects? Can we say that > something is a toxin if it *does nothing*? I'd also suggest throwing in an > x3, a property of the x2, which is the effect of the toxin. The structure > of this new vindu is thus parallel to {xajmi}. > > It doesn't parallel {xajmi}. xajmi3 is a property of xajmi1, not xajmi2, whereas vindu3 would be a property of vindu2, not vindu1. .i mi'e la tsani mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --f46d044786b517a74d04d86f34db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Noticed something wrong.

On 21 March 2013= 09:17, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
Also, are toxins intrinsically related to their effects? Can we say th= at something is a toxin if it *does nothing*? I'd also suggest throwing= in an x3, a property of the x2, which is the effect of the toxin. The stru= cture of this new vindu is thus parallel to {xajmi}.


It doesn't parallel {xa= jmi}. xajmi3 is a property of xajmi1, not xajmi2, whereas vindu3 would be a= property of vindu2, not vindu1.

.i mi'e la ts= ani mu'o

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