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Subject: Re: [lojban] Baby words: "into", as in "into the toilet".
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 Content preview:  On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:39:09AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell
    wrote: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:52:08AM +0000, tijlan wrote: > [snip]
    > > Or is there some significant difference between these: > > > > gau ko
    lo pinca be do cu nenri lo vimstizu > > lo pinca be ko cu nenri lo vimstizu
    > > > > I think not. > > I think you're right. > > > So I would prefer the
    latter that's shorter, and then I would want > > a word to the effect of
   "moving", say {mo'i}: > > > > lo pinca be ko [cu] mo'i nenri lo vimstizu >
    > > > This, however, says that you be the agent of your pee "being *in* >
    > a toilet in a moving manner" (perhaps a pee of yours that you for > > whatever
    reason have to keep in a train's loo, not allowing it to > > be flushed away
    from the moving container), again not necessarily > > "moving *into* a toilet".
    More surefooted than {mo'i nenri} would > > be {mo'i ne'i}, which would allow
    for further simplification: > > > > pinca ko mo'ine'i lo vimstizu > > > >
    That is, you be the agent of your own pee's moving into a toilet. > > *nod*
    That works well, thanks. > > FWIW, what I was wanting further discussion
   of was specifically > {ko vikmi le vimstizu nenri po'o} [...] 
 
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On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:39:09AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:52:08AM +0000, tijlan wrote:
> [snip]
> > Or is there some significant difference between these:
> > 
> > gau ko lo pinca be do cu nenri lo vimstizu
> > lo pinca be ko cu nenri lo vimstizu
> > 
> > I think not. 
> 
> I think you're right.
> 
> > So I would prefer the latter that's shorter, and then I would want
> > a word to the effect of "moving", say {mo'i}:
> > 
> > lo pinca be ko [cu] mo'i nenri lo vimstizu
> > 
> > This, however, says that you be the agent of your pee "being *in*
> > a toilet in a moving manner" (perhaps a pee of yours that you for
> > whatever reason have to keep in a train's loo, not allowing it to
> > be flushed away from the moving container), again not necessarily
> > "moving *into* a toilet". More surefooted than {mo'i nenri} would
> > be {mo'i ne'i}, which would allow for further simplification:
> > 
> > pinca ko mo'ine'i lo vimstizu
> > 
> > That is, you be the agent of your own pee's moving into a toilet.
> 
> *nod*  That works well, thanks.
> 
> FWIW, what I was wanting further discussion of was specifically
> {ko vikmi le vimstizu nenri po'o}

Erm, nevermind; see the repost I just made.

-Robin

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