Received: from mail-ye0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:42527) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UIkCK-0001U7-7O; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:26:52 -0700 Received: by mail-ye0-f189.google.com with SMTP id q1sf1131269yen.6 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:26:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=J690jKC2ejjYjkEoKNVlgCxAt4QUAIlUgMbWJODmRoQ=; b=jvGduujaiUNN5I1kFiHKI0jy1tSX8iCQSC8vIWUs2Wx/5IyaSuFxABAypam7VIVQI3 280qJbEF34Ps1fiy4g1jzQjmyPv1jqea3TLe2bI8l6+pv77CqbjsPx8narACW0HgASnc bYBcqWxEQKLQbYXPjG5tXX57Uei1GJnYhpspJ4a1mMfdgM6VfdSi7zwz5hzIiyUyzeri XG19YKxyPOQJeZHoJ5XVny8sT712eYTv+xIxIvTHhpbricLtqI8pXSBsvXo2CPoProtL PHERdHixtkbCRSmd4SNqGlj7CoWbWDIPy9NAbgMCdmJU2qbm2tYu00NB8W4pJtb6JeWE Rg2A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=J690jKC2ejjYjkEoKNVlgCxAt4QUAIlUgMbWJODmRoQ=; b=NLYygxuVVQJ7b5Kj0gvLohP6KE+1u2x3/XRnMVMEo6rvG6O8+Bsy3Nh87gFh+wkZoq l8yzRdpzPIi4eHl76DhY2Xq+NhgpbaBJbg9r3cCZY3jghuME1Y6OPyWbXQmKRzOb9Ppf ehoZ1soKQy+sHc16bGSup5BNC4CqO7bjdN2DbmvRKgje8xGcyld+WkjvYRHORMPgqf+g iTwRS1aJRt62NJ4Wak5ps67dUGGdk+y1QS4NWvwEDp6QBVkE5Ni7C2nKpMBWIkg9dSf1 levPSdNKN+7Z4LkJx2WIYsB9j+P0Czed6dwJRBmrlsG1v9yVD9hsjA3RNiD3Df0jV+XH 5mKA== X-Received: by 10.50.5.197 with SMTP id u5mr1239658igu.0.1363890397492; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:26:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.149.195 with SMTP id uc3ls3199385igb.8.canary; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:26:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.34.165 with SMTP id a5mr3430573igj.7.1363890396313; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-x22b.google.com (mail-ie0-x22b.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r9si752994igl.1.2013.03.21.11.26.36 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b; Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id e14so2036516iej.16 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:26:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.13.175 with SMTP id i15mr2671887igc.105.1363890396193; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.41.37 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:26:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CFF46FF4D28646-CFC-431A3@webmail-d211.sysops.aol.com> References: <047d7b604b044d035c04d8728b05@google.com> <8CFF46FF4D28646-CFC-431A3@webmail-d211.sysops.aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:26:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Digest for lojban@googlegroups.com - 11 Messages in 5 Topics From: Remo Dentato To: lojban X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0447f38293eab104d8737a52 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d0447f38293eab104d8737a52 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable About the name of planets, I think the naming them by numbers could work only if the structure of the solar system is known by everyone. {pavyplini} or {plini.xipa} (the . is mandatory since {plinixipa} might be mistaken for a fu'ivla) could work. In fact, jbovlaste already has {pavyplini} and friends. That said, I don't like this naming scheme very much, I'd like to have some cmene for planets in our solar system. I would be tempted to use the greek/latin names as basis but I would really like to have someone who could inject some Arabic or Chinese into it. Our moon has already a lojban word {lunra} that means "x1 is a major natural satellite/moon of planet x2" (by default our Moon). Jbovlaste also offers a word (a fu'ivla) for a generic satellite: {mluni} "x1 is a satellite/moon orbiting x2". If you like the numbering scheme probably {lunra.xivore} could be the second moon of Mars. What I don't really like of using numbers is that it assumes a precise knowledge of the entire system: which moon of Jupiter is Io ? A carbon nanotube could be a {navtabytu'u} and a space elevator a {kensa galgau}. For the asterorid belts, I would try {plinyspi djine} (ring of planet fragments). Lastly (take it "cum grano salis") {lo nundoifli cu mibysnadygau} for "your failure makes my success. remod btw, does you Sci-Fi occours inour solar system? On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Terry Sofian wrote: > Thanks for the assistance with "rickshaw" > > Here are other terms and phrases I'd like to have help with > > > More for my science fiction setting-(If anyone wants additional details o= n > this setting and how it uses lojban please let me know!) > > "Carbon Nanotube" > > =93Your failure makes for my success=94 > > I feel the easiest way to name planets is by numbering them outwards from > the system center-So what would the first planet, second, third, fourth, > fifth planets be called in this system? > > What is lojban for asteriod belt? > > Our Moon would probably be described as "major natural satellite of plane= t > three"-how would that be translated and finally > > What is lojban for "Space elevator"? > > > Thank you > > Terry > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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About the name of planets, I think the naming them by= numbers could work only if the structure of the solar system is known by e= veryone. {pavyplini} or {plini.xipa} (the . is mandatory since {plinixipa} = might be mistaken for a fu'ivla) could work. In fact, jbovlaste already= has {pavyplini} and friends.

That said, I don't like this naming scheme very much,=A0 I'd li= ke to have some cmene for planets in our solar system. I would be tempted t= o use the greek/latin names as basis but I would really like to have someon= e who could inject some Arabic or Chinese into it.

Our moon has already a lojban word {lunra} that m= eans "x1 is a major natural satellite/moon of planet x= 2" (by default our Moon). Jbovlaste also offers a word (a fu'= ;ivla) for a generic satellite: {mluni} "x1 is a satellite/= moon orbiting x2".

If you like the numbering scheme probably {lunra.xivore} could be the s= econd moon of Mars. What I don't really like of using numbers is that i= t assumes a precise knowledge of the entire system: which moon of Jupiter i= s Io ?

A carbon nanotube could be a {navtabytu'u} an= d a space elevator a {kensa galgau}.

For the asterorid be= lts, I would try {plinyspi djine} (ring of planet fragments).

Lastly (take it "cum grano salis") {lo nundoifli cu mibysnad= ygau} for "your failure makes my success.

remod
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btw, does you Sci-Fi occours inour solar system?



On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Terry Sofian = <= tsofian@aol.com> wrote:
Thanks for the assistance= with "rickshaw"
=A0
Here are other terms and phrases =A0I'd like to have help with
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More for my science ficti= on setting-(If anyone wants additional details on this setting and how it u= ses lojban please let me know!)
=A0
"Carbon Nanotube"
=A0
=93Your failure makes for my success=94
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I feel the easiest way to name planets is by numbering them outwards f= rom the system center-So what would the first planet, second, third, fourth= , fifth planets be called in this system?
=A0
What is lojban for asteriod belt?
=A0
Our Moon would probably be described as "major natural satellite = of planet three"-how would that be translated=A0 and finally
=A0
What is lojban for "Space elevator"?
=A0
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Thank you
=A0
Terry

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