Received: from mail-ve0-f191.google.com ([209.85.128.191]:58741) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UIqRc-0003TN-MW; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:07:06 -0700 Received: by mail-ve0-f191.google.com with SMTP id m1sf1158661ves.8 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:06:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:from:to:subject:date :message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=2G3ekHS8E46vW/VyTsKPyMugwvcmYvIJCVL6L97lxK0=; b=xCpzk6kfXKHD5zh/j+I0FE4Uju3gGodweDf7nLn4HkJMa7GlfFfT/pSAO1cu4bvY8y oQwx0PaWPvc09OL+BuBAKB50TbBhPmKT8SUaS8/qG1jO2RumEad1P/uUq0ChOjyzoWd9 tH4uDLIUISYBhW1Ixjt52uGYhaiQC4HTnkfPAp5ZAdrdo2RxWRJFTmP8/ThL3Liz26/k kqJ8IyBxa7ItK1Tax9jCgVbAyH2KcgUxFxz6qvob7HMeXuzLhhnW/AWPJNPSPfPGJUU2 1Xet8baUDVqble/wime3LCC36+AYLAs1IoP44bVQ6TFWCQwe11d6FQQUtuavhzSSYjw8 n7ag== X-Received: by 10.49.82.134 with SMTP id i6mr758803qey.20.1363914409657; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:06:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.25.168 with SMTP id d8ls1211722qeg.15.gmail; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:06:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.131.134 with SMTP id m6mr385190yhi.50.1363914407830; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leopard.ixazon.lan ([2001:470:8:42:bdbe:3f8e:e9d7:1100]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p51si14796yhh.4.2013.03.21.18.06.47; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:bdbe:3f8e:e9d7:1100 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:bdbe:3f8e:e9d7:1100; Received: from caracal.localnet (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:8:42:58af:d948:adb:369]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C3C7175 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:06:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban] Re: SF setting Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:06:45 -0400 Message-ID: <2511580.UT8k2BeeMG@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-38-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <047d7b604b044d035c04d8728b05@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:bdbe:3f8e:e9d7:1100 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Thursday, March 21, 2013 19:07:14 Jacob Errington wrote: > {mluni} isn't a fu'ivla, it's a gismu of the form CCVCV. (fu'ivla can't b= e > five letters long, as that's a criterion for being a gismu.)=20 A fu'ivla can be five letters long, mu'u zo .aizdo .e zo gleua. > I can, however, see one major issue with the numeric system: what if we > discover a new planet between two existing ones? What do we call it? If > it's discovered between planet 3 and 4, do we call it planet 3.5 ? Do we > shift all the other planets back and call this new planet planet 4 ? As f= ar > as I can tell, this is the only real shortcoming of this system. I prefer names, and would like to see what they turn out to be if we combin= e=20 the Greek/Latin names with the Sanskrit or Chinese ones. Even the Greek nam= es=20 can be slightly foreign: I once read a reference to =F4=EF=ED =F0=EB=E1=ED= =E7=F4=E7 =D0=EF=F3=E5=E9=E4=F9=ED=E1, and=20 it took me a second or two to figure out they meant Neptune. Asteroids and= =20 minor planets are designated by both names and numbers, but the number=20 indicates the order of discovery (except for Pluto). > > A carbon nanotube could be a {navtabytu'u} and a space elevator a {kens= a > > galgau}. >=20 > Elevators are machines rather than agents, and I'd suggest {galzenrikmi'i= } > "height increase physical-cause machine". Perfectly jvajvo. As for carbon > nanotube, I don't think that a lujvo is ideal for this concept. (Due to i= t > being extremely naljvajvo, as in practically 0% jvajvo.) Why not just use= a > tanru? {.i tabno ke nanvi tubnu}. "navytabytu'u" would mean a nanocarbon tube. I'd say "tabno navytu'u" or=20 "tabynavytu'u", and I don't see anything naljvajvo about it (nanotubes can= =20 contain things, such as smaller nanotubes). What's a space elevator? I suggest "lafmi'i" for elevator; it's shorter. Pierre --=20 I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.