Received: from mail-yh0-f60.google.com ([209.85.213.60]:50100) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UJiHe-0000ni-46 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 03:36:32 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f60.google.com with SMTP id i21sf716305yha.5 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 03:36:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bbalHPVkvcEl3WbyYdjBchGpP4gFPu02zrureKZJpXE=; b=wzQEbSUqlxL2u8guYbiYxRfBeQB5od7CIT3H7EdrobfiRkvmt3UfX5MOzKcAfmexcU 3vcHDR5yOZEv1xOqX4PL301YhS6t0M+ensWK4LXXxKTad/TSDaBREKWtzSMjmK0ckpSI Oxkj50EXgMBGwvycvXvBzS6/Sl3nKskiQ61wpRurLYxUX+U4IlPYi39j3E9CFlENoBRs 4VrrbZWrs88PVKmMLxMsGCPwXVC2rummtQtcGBeFAdAXmd8+KOUIoIHG2UGR22oksiH5 VyPNd6GehjEEZdTpiOMXr1/3O1t3BsObSCPJNkmgncNsMhZsbnB8M5pImuHiAgUBlaSL CAtQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bbalHPVkvcEl3WbyYdjBchGpP4gFPu02zrureKZJpXE=; b=tfUFqmVyqZCWL7NKkbxAiJVDO3+/7LfnwaRpasooM2R13wipb/qTV4GDZiLIg3prfI +bk8UWEEB3oZPLLMEeTbWdqKRTV2pYhG7JCWVOZpMLmqm6XYWzi0NSwdhERS1kKetDlI CMogUz6R1q9ZHma6Qgc4pkBHmyjQrSZb2gW++bD3YhJrRK8RZbA9ue1uPJPJ1I3BEBAU oSzNPen2VuasK9C2Mev0zkK2BvIIFSJIe9v3GPGQ3W7yN8YNr487h00+WRyvYbTwkn4G bQYSMfOvQZ+7syamyNYhiUkH43mA/ZrlSyiV8+F9Fo0AbrGQG9bsOC5BMyqwC2DSFOEq q3sw== X-Received: by 10.49.84.73 with SMTP id w9mr446156qey.34.1364121360915; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 03:36:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.39.4 with SMTP id l4ls1763070qek.26.gmail; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 03:36:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.84.73 with SMTP id w9mr446155qey.34.1364121360623; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 03:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 03:36:00 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: Subject: [lojban] what {me lo broda ku} means and why not allow {selbri NOI} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2305_2984145.1364121360202" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_2305_2984145.1364121360202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In http://www.lojban.org/tiki/zasni+gerna+cenba+vreji xorxes proposes allowing {broda NOI}. pe'i it makes no sense and shouldn't be allowed. {do sanga} = You sing, you're a singer {*do sanga noi stati} = *You sing that talented (???) However, {do me lo sanga noi stati} = You are a singer who is talented makes perfect sense. *brivla work like verbs.* *brivla converted into sumti work like nouns.* *{me lo broda ku} work like "to be + noun".* I wish someone posted here other grammatical drawbacks of allowing selbri NOI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_2305_2984145.1364121360202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In http://www.lojban.org/tiki/zasni+gerna+cenba+vreji xorxes proposes = allowing {broda NOI}.
pe'i it makes no sense and shouldn't be all= owed.

{do sanga} =3D You sing, you're a singer
{*do sanga noi stati} =3D *You sing that talented (???)
However,
{do me lo sanga noi stati} =3D You are a si= nger who is talented
makes perfect sense.

brivla work like verbs.
brivla converted into sumti w= ork like nouns.
{me lo broda ku} work like "to be + noun".=

I wish someone posted here other grammatical = drawbacks of allowing selbri NOI

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