Received: from mail-bk0-f59.google.com ([209.85.214.59]:45360) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UJkoz-0001ja-Cs; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:18:57 -0700 Received: by mail-bk0-f59.google.com with SMTP id jk7sf1957243bkc.24 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=bQjlvia39SSnpHJmkTN6hSWAduvg00dBVjLGDBz2aAc=; b=RJSXI3AYEPXprxcssZq/hKZLbxfOQIWSZyn8uN9gLOsPj9PBJCMtkGKrDJi0Si9ZgT B/xeKeXNs6Pb+URO4XPBaIOZVvzl5/u7x61BFe9jyUJqKeWg+RFgpikah1bIjYiRfEVH DTlIDcWRjX6Ydjplpw0babUMYhI9nYgBb/AtmA3DSN7nF7NvmIXUIXYt+rqBIbFmBYtl z8BYWr6VZqGzfIHDhErUaODf9oN7yJBsTTI0xQbQTL1grY7kgHNazMkhmT99LnnpNcEO FsmegRJHTDHB45epeW7wBPWCe6p5pmbLZRPMbq5B+dnCOz5UCOdXPeaGnP9J2vLkOLHI SGZA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=bQjlvia39SSnpHJmkTN6hSWAduvg00dBVjLGDBz2aAc=; b=BB7QL7T+A09X825+vWYi2IqXFZwzyvYqdetuX84W7ABWWKrAiTbarkPsHxUQxl+n96 jq11qPSYe+Tx1U4f7f6okFld6MBlDMWL9gNmJhB1rABiF58VvLVwz2jyGweRDq1FDXhC MWVWg8RYr+jnfucWghPRMkG0s8I7d6wRigI8RygXPeJloQIAS5oGaO4ajtMk86Iorab9 aCa4o/9bh5Yihzslwgu6tOqzwA7i1Fuhtv9DHf71P+zFtPhvq+caPNYmBCX5fvkWzxhF Hf/KAK7Rc1y4817eEMvlAs68nugk8XfICDcFv63w7k/S//OydtAYlBwZ9ovJh9v3X94f eI8g== X-Received: by 10.180.88.68 with SMTP id be4mr1348939wib.21.1364131121653; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.183.74 with SMTP id ek10ls1706747wic.35.gmail; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:18:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.205.24.134 with SMTP id re6mr651489bkb.7.1364131120799; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jh7si116073bkb.3.2013.03.24.06.18.40 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a; Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id fe20so9878418lab.15 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:18:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.39.10 with SMTP id l10mr4303161lbk.79.1364131120398; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.75.40 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:18:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:18:40 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] what {me lo broda ku} means and why not allow {selbri NOI} From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 7:36 AM, la gleki wrote: > In http://www.lojban.org/tiki/zasni+gerna+cenba+vreji xorxes proposes > allowing {broda NOI}. > pe'i it makes no sense and shouldn't be allowed. > > {do sanga} = You sing, you're a singer > {*do sanga noi stati} = *You sing that talented (???) > > However, > {do me lo sanga noi stati} = You are a singer who is talented > makes perfect sense. I think you would want "poi" there. But "noi" with selbri would have a different use: do sanga noi mi na pu djuno You sing, which I didn't know. This construction would require something like "ke'a" but in selma'o GOhA, to pick the selbri that "noi" attaches to. Or perhaps "co'e" can do that job: do sanga noi mi na co'e You sing, which I don't. do sanga noi ro da djica lo nu da co'e You sing, which everybody wants to do. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.