Received: from mail-pa0-f64.google.com ([209.85.220.64]:64817) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UJnqp-0003Xb-UH for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:33:10 -0700 Received: by mail-pa0-f64.google.com with SMTP id fb1sf512062pad.29 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:32:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1ZcQ1rJFm7fONTpnvotM1L4iS6TLccQcZ/eR6/Qpa8g=; b=je/IvQEAsVJlZW9xtOutHtNgZsKKjnFeqM9QyRkwS0jE3EmZ0nH0GQwdjh7sfKCNu8 EnhqurzeS5dWtSLM3sShoMavAxHJQK+iXZUexm99zUp8HH+l50/+IojFhhv7XxpPZP0M tCdHDo4htcqyN+cB5bp8aH0Th1EmwBzm4sZ5hSPhff5wjZ68kWCK4qekfImEq9xV90wN QSM5H+ZfpN6BuCPaRhxVCx4qtgTuREISB2yKXu7XgcJnDGmhYTuiSvMuXXx/VVFsUPrt DRSrBM2II+Sev9QLXZTsJ+KoDOgyNtDgUTvL1F6TNq/M6PM8NsBp8XwueP8je/dYUdaC KamQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1ZcQ1rJFm7fONTpnvotM1L4iS6TLccQcZ/eR6/Qpa8g=; b=oXBbNOyU3qSO2T0mWo6BbhuufmbVdUFaR2LYSpnZ79XtaM8/nm+UMSuMnQ6GVR8fOa JvSdR3CLHfWQawD9lmuCy+6a+RYkMOXIssEq8kuElasfXJ+uTK3+39pmmcl7GTc0pOgT ynfBQoXhF/S+Z516mpzBe4Ak3rRcg2LHcmqus8fWPrvhK5r1fHfXjYPNBVB0EJTYUR+y GQ04pxo2/v49tw7GJE5Bmdm7Cs6a/+QlyWdOzn9kfifh45KET8XwOf9yWKhRTQ+namlW WZnN16E7+EVMYsG5tGtGxq0h+Fd2CIlGPieruRUy8cgYhsYW6N0CA0Qk5OgKQVKZTSmv sk6A== X-Received: by 10.49.85.233 with SMTP id k9mr490875qez.41.1364142769642; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:32:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.35.73 with SMTP id f9ls2143826qej.27.gmail; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:32:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.71.50 with SMTP id r18mr487737qeu.26.1364142769368; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:32:49 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [lojban] Re: No gismu for Difference MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_424_4137802.1364142769020" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_424_4137802.1364142769020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Next, why you choose the gloss "to subtract". Whats the proposed=20 > definition? > x1 is a difference/result of subtraction of x3 from x2 ? > > Then the glossword should be "difference" > > Bulgarian: =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=B0 (bg) f > Czech: rozd=C3=ADl (cs) m > Danish: differens (da) c > Dutch: verschil (nl) n > Esperanto: diferenco > Finnish: erotus (fi) > French: diff=C3=A9rence (fr) f > German: Differenz (de) f > Hebrew: =D7=94=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=A9 (hefresh) m > Indonesian: selisih > Italian: differenza (it) f > Japanese: =E5=B7=AE (=E3=81=95, sa) > Persian: =D8=A7=D8=AE=D8=AA=D9=84=D8=A7=D9=81 (fa) (extel=C3=A2f), =D8=AA= =D9=81=D8=A7=D8=B6=D9=84 (fa) (taf=C3=A2zol) > Polish: r=C3=B3=C5=BCnica (pl) f > Romanian: diferen=C8=9B=C4=83 (ro) f > Russian: =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=BD=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C (ru) (r=C3=A1zn= ost=E2=80=99) f, =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=BD=D0=B8=D1=86=D0=B0 (ru) (r=C3=A1zn= itsa) f > Slovene: razlika (sl) f > Spanish: diferencia (es) f > Swedish: differens (sv) c, skillnad (sv) c > Telugu: =E0=B0=AD=E0=B1=87=E0=B0=A6=E0=B0=AE=E0=B1=81 (bhaedamu) > > As for Mandarin it is cha1shu4 > > Of course we can play with the sounds a bit but in order to get a better= =20 > mnemonic we have to choose either chinese or romance etymology. > So I suggest either {tcacu}/{tcaco} (.uinaisai it clashes with {tcaci}) o= r=20 > {difro} (final -o is normal for mekso gismu). > > However, selsumji seems fine to me. But if you do really want to add it t= o=20 > jvs please consider that jian3 is not suitable. > oh i forgot to provide a link to Mandarin word.=20 http://cdict.net/?q=3D+%E5%B7%AE%E6%95%B0 > >> subja =3D x1 is the difference, x2 minus x3 >> >> If there were other suggestions for a potential gismu for this in the=20 >> past, I'd like to know them. If there were none, I'll probably add this = to=20 >> jbovlaste within a few days. >> >> .i mi'e la tsani mu'o >> > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. 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Next, = why you choose the gloss "to subtract". Whats the proposed definition?
x1 is a difference/result of subtraction of x3 from x2 ?
Then the glossword should be "difference"

=
Bulgarian: =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=B0 (bg) f
Czech: rozd=C3=ADl (cs) m
Danish: differens (da) c
Dutch: verschil (nl) n
Esperanto: diferenco
Finnish: = erotus (fi)
French: diff=C3=A9rence (fr) f
German: Diff= erenz (de) f
Hebrew: =D7=94=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=A9 (hefresh) m
Indonesian: selisih
Italian: differenza (it) f
Japan= ese: =E5=B7=AE (=E3=81=95, sa)
Persian: =D8=A7=D8=AE=D8=AA=D9=84= =D8=A7=D9=81 (fa) (extel=C3=A2f), =D8=AA=D9=81=D8=A7=D8=B6=D9=84 (fa) (taf= =C3=A2zol)
Polish: r=C3=B3=C5=BCnica (pl) f
Romanian: d= iferen=C8=9B=C4=83 (ro) f
Russian: =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=BD=D0=BE= =D1=81=D1=82=D1=8C (ru) (r=C3=A1znost=E2=80=99) f, =D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B7=D0=BD= =D0=B8=D1=86=D0=B0 (ru) (r=C3=A1znitsa) f
Slovene: razlika (sl) f=
Spanish: diferencia (es) f
Swedish: differens (sv) c, = skillnad (sv) c
Telugu: =E0=B0=AD=E0=B1=87=E0=B0=A6=E0=B0=AE=E0= =B1=81 (bhaedamu)

As for Mandarin it is cha1= shu4

Of course we can play with  the sounds a= bit but in order to get a better mnemonic we have to choose either chinese= or romance etymology.
So I suggest either {tcacu}/{tcaco} (.uina= isai it clashes with {tcaci}) or {difro} (final -o is normal for mekso gism= u).

However, selsumji seems fine to me. But if you= do really want to add it to jvs please consider that jian3 is not suitable= .

oh i forgot to provide a link to Ma= ndarin word. 

http://cdict.net/?q=3D+%E5%B7%A= E%E6%95%B0



subja =3D x1 is the difference, x2 minus x3
<= br>
If there were other suggestions for a potential gismu for thi= s in the past, I'd like to know them. If there were none, I'll probably add= this to jbovlaste within a few days.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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