Received: from mail-yh0-f56.google.com ([209.85.213.56]:43658) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UJwYy-000702-Ij; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:51:13 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f56.google.com with SMTP id 28sf860730yhr.11 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:50:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-received :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=XEKQTHtSScwvMAqwA5vCpcbnfPXsEdAy1YdDSiplC3c=; b=CX0zRimFUM4k1vP78naIC+C7dZf+w502exvY/2/7fQj8O8nBCsUB0SxP7CCcWqjbbN WqpPx2y8lvgObD3AXGutgl7srm6w12NjRIm6GBxa8B+vluVtZjJZ3rG7KY7JZbvovkb1 NaXfZzUofEQk/P86XjaqLarwSKTSLToOoSYELuUfO4J62xrDqmIiOR5zXSCcj6koiz/Q 2mkLb9lHjjbPoVK5Cnle9euG1SrhfRYkxWMRL6siPZEPhkFJ8NsqfXBNs8awdxVV3Qb4 cdvknIvIgvHjpd08vku21O8MsaXPi8iB45JmOw3yc8VSLWVQUG4eqvttIRJJCUtSI6/R 6h2w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-received :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=XEKQTHtSScwvMAqwA5vCpcbnfPXsEdAy1YdDSiplC3c=; b=sQTyWP0liKCCNPAUHNHZUHtz2ixOfhGtRCj2GWLCfS3e1fu98mhKYfopJdCKn8vROk pVtBSU9Aeq5HlW/Wcp4tqj6zhIn6YbDexRsrQpG56gAMjXQLMaCbPboiI3BMSi+OheIF GAWMezzMA8sQ/9Y22oGnVj2zl9h/vEwl8xw76WSj+e+3IkNo4Pb0SWt0qLCjJDioKJX9 17KkLOpsvG5n+QNY4K4NXlXe39N8Gl4462YgWPY34YxEcZFxVjqr9bAo4HnLc/x9w3M8 DiGc9gyb6WGxQMjfIcMGaeQwCC0iCsm3K4r6jx2YdZTDkEU/Uymmac+JE+w685ox5vBr kSOA== X-Received: by 10.49.72.225 with SMTP id g1mr50512qev.36.1364176257998; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:50:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.39.105 with SMTP id o9ls2053783qek.45.gmail; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:50:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.58.118.8 with SMTP id ki8mr4219539veb.38.1364176256609; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f178.google.com (mail-vc0-f178.google.com [209.85.220.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ct10si2638573vdb.3.2013.03.24.18.50.56 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.178; Received: by mail-vc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hz11so4477422vcb.9 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:50:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.220.70.77 with SMTP id c13mr13249811vcj.43.1364176256512; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:50:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.188.116 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:50:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <78563624-9255-41a0-b09c-fb9cd7c03d33@googlegroups.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:50:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: No gismu for Difference To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a8d762e66ad04d8b6098c X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b3a8d762e66ad04d8b6098c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Ian Johnson wrote= : > Indeed, this has been something that has nagged at the back of my mind > since I started studying the language; there are fairly few words which a= re > sufficiently similar to their source language counterparts to help a > speaker of a source language learn the language more easily. This is why I say the vocabulary is equally d=EDfficult for everybody. The memory hooks aren't numerous for any given language, and they're not consistent enough to make them useful to learn. Totally ad hoc words could hardly be more difficult to learn than what we have. stevo > The stated purpose of the algorithm doesn't seem like it was really > achieved, pe'i. Not that that's a bad thing, as it still provides a sourc= e > of an a priori vocabulary. > > mi'e la latro'a mu'o > > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. 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On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Ian Joh= nson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
Indeed, this has been something that has nagged at the back of my mind sinc= e I started studying the language; there are fairly few words which are suf= ficiently similar to their source language counterparts to help a speaker o= f a source language learn the language more easily.

This is why I say the vocabulary is equally d=EDfficult= for everybody. The memory hooks aren't numerous for any given language= , and they're not consistent enough to make them useful to learn. Total= ly ad hoc words could hardly be more difficult to learn than what we have.= =A0

stevo
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The stated purpose of the algorithm doesn't seem like it was really ac= hieved, pe'i. Not that that's a bad thing, as it still provides a s= ource of an a priori vocabulary.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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