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la .daniel. cu cusku di'e
> I'm Daniel Evans, and I figured that I would share my thoughts on the
> lojban place structure. I've been thinking about it for a few weeks, so
> I finally sat down today for about four hours and typed up a really
> rough paper about it.
>
> In a nutshell, I say it should be trashed. Thrown away. Why? Read the
> paper, and then tell me what you think :)

I just read it. The idea of using semantic roles to mark places is not 
new; not only have I used it in one of my conlangs, the system you 
propose is almost identical to the one present in Loglan! The only real 
difference is that Loglan had a few more such "cases" than you are 
proposing, and it didn't get rid of the FA and SE cmavo.

You seem to be complaining that the place structures are too hard to 
keep track of. This is a common complaint among beginners, but I can 
assure you that it gets easy after a while.

Instead of trashing the whole gimste, I think it makes more sense to 
regularize the place structures. Remove odd-balls from groups of 
otherwise perfectly parallel place structures, remove some of the 
obscure places that never get used and only clog up lujvo, and so on. 
This, I believe, will all get done in due time, so there is no reason to 
panic.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i



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