Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:45225) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ULCGE-00046w-IK; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:48:58 -0700 Received: by mail-gh0-f189.google.com with SMTP id g15sf819176ghb.16 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:48:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-received :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=ibWvJY3wxpvXKb910EtdvZwhllnFmjbCR9roLlG8UGw=; b=wjRO1qwExqWCwEoCimRzu/bOukpyBrEDTVrCuAGOnfPBJJYsCdDjRgaU/7FzIm+AHG gqaV2rcnYUwZ1AdH5wS2oLe+NjxxRBqZADSh4s2SINO+3mkqoNXm9Ob2L6Ak5mZahuOH lE2HzuImrIWubUEAAIj8sm3XWm187p3gKwGcLSQIKbQ5T9xtH/xMXcX3zx/HR3DS+dOD HR/x+Ayy/J04XXsLjcqiSgyt+DM4rOU6CtFw0dK7oBd1krNOxRp7/kn8yjfu4ZT/831V KkiuHHRgr+sJLeR8P34nJk8XQjjJTjYhQGqpUh+sNijYhunEQLQ9Cs2eYM1U/r0PKZVo uDmg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-received :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=ibWvJY3wxpvXKb910EtdvZwhllnFmjbCR9roLlG8UGw=; b=L7lxnADQgwhqvnAjoXb1Cx1e8PVxuN7k1/k0i84UIJM/NbzRdiFgu1dF3OYYM1ecPw ViIR7qWTJUOLtVIXqJ3/wf0DcsHV8ss+DbCraXV1KtRWu6+y6Z0wYzsuUBAAoXkEyu2z rZ74dRKoThbcs7ZRm/riD2o97V+jk6N/975NLulxu8h4zNo/txpaoLWU7V1ufFgDj1IB byXl6K7tHtuyEUcehPUPKiWtUXTKn5CpiIkOc9tuCAMy7oM7dXPFWExM8dIwFlnr7P11 2ChUNsblDa1vSsnmzAvFfcqQSlYUuURql0AoTL7zVNLa3Dwef/wE5kJAph9Bi3t5VkEB XQ8Q== X-Received: by 10.50.135.10 with SMTP id po10mr1856918igb.4.1364474927866; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:48:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.219.197 with SMTP id pq5ls5716006igc.4.gmail; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:48:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.42.232.12 with SMTP id js12mr6049809icb.4.1364474927421; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x232.google.com (mail-ob0-x232.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id mk7si772692igc.0.2013.03.28.05.48.47 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232; Received: by mail-ob0-x232.google.com with SMTP id wd20so9033183obb.23 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:48:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.60.117.3 with SMTP id ka3mr3278362oeb.67.1364474927288; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:48:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.127.228 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 05:48:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9cb76aa0-a82f-490f-befe-faeb69060888@googlegroups.com> <414a3bcb-4faa-49e3-be0e-9c05ea957574@googlegroups.com> <90174d3c-9b27-48e3-8a2d-46b1b94acae7@googlegroups.com> From: Jacob Errington Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:48:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] A Discussion of the Lojban System of Place Structure To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b417ffb589aac04d8fb9340 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b417ffb589aac04d8fb9340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just find it silly that rather than use place structure, a simple 3-ary structure, we're introducing relative clauses, and lujvo, and BAI... "Let's make things more complicated to make them simpler." It seems to counterintuitive. .i mi'e la tsani mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --047d7b417ffb589aac04d8fb9340 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just find it silly that rather than use place structure, a simple 3-ary structure, we're introducing relative clauses, and lujvo, and BAI... "Let's make things more complicated to make them simpler." It seems to counterintuitive.

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