Received: from mail-ob0-f184.google.com ([209.85.214.184]:37628) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ULoM2-0004pB-Nz for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:29:35 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f184.google.com with SMTP id ef5sf344244obb.1 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:29:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IFtWtKFjH4Ks5XIPSlqIAmgFP9I+22SSst69xzV9X5c=; b=isRC4POzIbmqTUOD5drqF1wvo+T36h2S830B8EoKF/w226R6KxKUSxZRtucczgzSir rc7dyTUwgE2+hdhGi2HJ8EdJaGfAqft5C0tpa4ZvgmCOWnNbSVngfp/HMowTJ1jQd+Ay Y/HfXwFU7pRuuqwdibnNfQOhiYaZSUEgf01Unf42r00kW6JWI2xQ5ApIAHMv1qvXOo2p U6wsGgYLM+nKruuysYvM566AbRW7lN4koHf8a8Wo3u5w3TWh9RNrrpQyAkxQBUxt4vd9 6k7P1jDkTdeKomPAPO5JnWEHdioU/CC22wumSg+aHcI7CGXo+DxF4YDBm6F642CU1r2y WWwA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IFtWtKFjH4Ks5XIPSlqIAmgFP9I+22SSst69xzV9X5c=; b=YOcgvGQPkoub66LV6uky31J+tx1HmlhcPYLjSud8+rMyD7A1c0szG8CROUSQGZbhQJ ZeqWHTasJc6qRohU/B/KAutlVN0GKD2NvIHz5thNXrDEJT0NewldOVixw/PI5eIJkNZ6 xGdoj2d5hDCsy8gpQwyJGRQwuKoeREl3t371/D9mX3sy+5AVxAP6EkNkutbZKNG0FEjv KpF/DvBCrIVer4lPSFGCTUyd9y35g3zs2r69V7GRX6izJvgDKByDLvN7WfAmrBChSw+u gOwqeNICITyXE1KkePNLrJQlqbNhbYjXMrp5eeWniVm8fQpYwgIUqYpYJyjDMoMds9wK WRGQ== X-Received: by 10.49.72.194 with SMTP id f2mr339716qev.34.1364621360187; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:29:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.59.196 with SMTP id b4ls722372qer.49.gmail; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:29:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.60.170 with SMTP id i10mr317768qer.41.1364621359860; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <0ac6194f-893c-42d5-bfd0-356e9cd19378@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20130329232030.GK6592@samsa.fritz.box> References: <9cb76aa0-a82f-490f-befe-faeb69060888@googlegroups.com> <1364567611.32356.YahooMailNeo@web184405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1364583594.67473.YahooMailNeo@web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130329232030.GK6592@samsa.fritz.box> Subject: Re: [lojban] A Discussion of the Lojban System of Place Structure MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1592_9926504.1364621359267" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1592_9926504.1364621359267 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Saturday, March 30, 2013 3:20:30 AM UTC+4, v4hn wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:59:54AM -0700, John E Clifford wrote: > > From: MorphemeAddict > > > > > > Yes, places can, because each place of each selbri can be defined > uniquely. > > > > And so can each preposition/case. > > > > Sure, but it probably doesn't make sense to define a preposition for > klama1, > one for klama2, one for citka2, one for gerku2 and all the other places > out there. > Doesn't make sense but possible. If allow not more than 2 places then it might make sense for a language. For gerku2 we have fi'o jutsi. > > If places do not group well together, it simply doesn't make sense to have > propositions for them - although you can do that if you like. Lojban even > "kind of" supports you with {fi'o}. > > > v4hn > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_1592_9926504.1364621359267 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday, March 30, 2013 3:20:30 AM UTC+4, v4hn wrote:On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:59:54AM -0700= , John E Clifford wrote:
> From: MorphemeAddict <lyt...@gmail.com>
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> > Yes, places can, because each place of each selbri can be def= ined uniquely. 
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> And so can each preposition/case.
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Sure, but it probably doesn't make sense to define a preposition for kl= ama1,
one for klama2, one for citka2, one for gerku2 and all the other places= out there.

Doesn't make sense but possible.
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If allow not more than 2 places then it might make sense for a languag= e.
For gerku2 we have fi'o jutsi.
 

If places do not group well together, it simply doesn't make sense to h= ave
propositions for them - although you can do that if you like. Lojban ev= en
"kind of" supports you with {fi'o}.


v4hn

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