Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:49430) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ULoMf-0004qR-8R for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:30:12 -0700 Received: by mail-qc0-f189.google.com with SMTP id c11sf356727qca.6 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:29:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ar/RJ/1bTt6sQ/On9hZgworPcFQDyV65lbTQD9r4JGo=; b=Yr5SpkL5wooN/p2QV+BwKN25lW0Xe1X4LoxJ7tKamhw7A+1V98dEcgBAR1NybnIc8O 2W+W2k22j/AgKgHQmytiyc1MxHnekYR/DB9k28AFBViqxWzhGoUBCKlDOsz/+MVAGgiG 9rLEKlbf4Ggixca5XZoNJMUX6n6VjZk7yhFwGddXoondVlT17MQwLI5KDdAbrFdXrozB xu5l5UPXmUJL7d5+kTDzWq9kqx7KMRkTh6G2Vu5gQNjwUkeFLWV65/rg+Q3Gpi+JP0KX 8DQeOduC3KJlv/xRrr2RO8caO7tS2U02mtu3qbDIFsVAnwd5b2EyqGOIwKmkpUEzEZhn JvmA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ar/RJ/1bTt6sQ/On9hZgworPcFQDyV65lbTQD9r4JGo=; b=RD0pNB3dMvf74KjWMOgVOlbBUbtMwLKG5pr/9LDMMMhglNCoKwUEQKTGsCruE5tJ42 UDwK2eQEbYloFIIDec6NiKnVfyiJkvhxD2q7ipcguACGsAcOgi8hUbElgdVcsXZQzGYR HgDlIILyauMxgXji7PVvaQg05XKSGrVU3NcarsUc/AL4qkIUSxa8emTfWNIzx3y30BLy SzCDf2KE13Gf+8GFL7YxzTMLuY27Kgi+YGwtjuY/p1iJ0etrjmZk+XGwZZlTUZMEziW6 fN9mGe4SQZr0eMq+P1m624vHLUNNIngGKr5jFa5Tq4pGcwRHxWb3B36SVz8U6GCzqEux 9Xkg== X-Received: by 10.49.72.225 with SMTP id g1mr324151qev.36.1364621398688; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:29:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.73.225 with SMTP id o1ls597903qev.90.gmail; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:29:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.3.42 with SMTP id 10mr327563qez.23.1364621398393; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:29:58 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <98695e9f-e20f-4dfb-80a3-12fc52238fef@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <0ac6194f-893c-42d5-bfd0-356e9cd19378@googlegroups.com> References: <9cb76aa0-a82f-490f-befe-faeb69060888@googlegroups.com> <1364567611.32356.YahooMailNeo@web184405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1364583594.67473.YahooMailNeo@web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <20130329232030.GK6592@samsa.fritz.box> <0ac6194f-893c-42d5-bfd0-356e9cd19378@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] A Discussion of the Lojban System of Place Structure MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1521_6590039.1364621398179" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1521_6590039.1364621398179 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:29:19 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote: > > > > On Saturday, March 30, 2013 3:20:30 AM UTC+4, v4hn wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:59:54AM -0700, John E Clifford wrote: >> > From: MorphemeAddict >> > >> > > Yes, places can, because each place of each selbri can be defined >> uniquely. >> > >> > And so can each preposition/case. >> > >> >> Sure, but it probably doesn't make sense to define a preposition for >> klama1, >> one for klama2 > > Wait, what? We do have a preposition for klama1 and klama2. > , one for citka2, one for gerku2 and all the other places out there. >> > > Doesn't make sense but possible. > If allow not more than 2 places then it might make sense for a language. > For gerku2 we have fi'o jutsi. > > >> >> If places do not group well together, it simply doesn't make sense to >> have >> propositions for them - although you can do that if you like. Lojban even >> "kind of" supports you with {fi'o}. >> >> >> v4hn >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_1521_6590039.1364621398179 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:29:19 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:

On Saturday, March 30, 2013 = 3:20:30 AM UTC+4, v4hn wrote:
On Fri= , Mar 29, 2013 at 11:59:54AM -0700, John E Clifford wrote:
> From: MorphemeAddict <lyt...@gmail.com>
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> > Yes, places can, because each place of each selbri can be def= ined uniquely. 
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> And so can each preposition/case.
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Sure, but it probably doesn't make sense to define a preposition for kl= ama1,
one for klama2


<= div>Wait, what? We do have a preposition for klama1 and klama2.
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, one for citka2, one for gerku2 and all the other p= laces out there.

Doesn't make sense but possible.
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If allow not more than 2 places then it might make sense for a languag= e.
For gerku2 we have fi'o jutsi. 
 

If places do not group well together, it simply doesn't make sense to h= ave
propositions for them - although you can do that if you like. Lojban ev= en
"kind of" supports you with {fi'o}.


v4hn

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