Received: from mail-ve0-f184.google.com ([209.85.128.184]:48489) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UO7Nc-00027Q-EO for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 07:12:51 -0700 Received: by mail-ve0-f184.google.com with SMTP id d10sf1173400vea.21 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 07:12:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=UB5yH8KkCh719ZgQLlfMrKB/KeImVlv0YSQdnWKExpY=; b=y6YxRSwrXWidBKD49bo+0ZUzTVSCD5Lo5WMoRlbILbNaCYT5spnbeEvvzhwyFUrq2O ntUflv8Kj6TmJnssSgqEHeTP4JqmXlKrO9Hd3/mVTLeAuxJKCh13JNuCPoYNhDE/Ut7a 3noCVK2Eo5ZYI4nT/R4MznV9Pj9NEIckGKSnZ9b8yDb4jOJihbVwk0T1kCXLiEuDUaDb wmT6Qri0HL8+FZ6aofU0A4KLFF8byB+fVOU+LZXRr04qcnLZia30AY52ERqKUDKxRIN1 BvX6tR1pR1XzDoas5yr1qi87vSsmakWEx7oLzWHpP+FO2qRZRtZu2wak/PduqsUDFcAK 5SBg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=UB5yH8KkCh719ZgQLlfMrKB/KeImVlv0YSQdnWKExpY=; b=t4wxOs3TIw0cbGYpZoM4WUwJpLQ5PQ24BtVyfq9TczH2uJHdcoDcuSeOwxQdT0LqQo SZK1rbKEptsFFzKoU7VMzEm5bCBo8Ji8VEoz7B9S9ZsxkVCxCGXPGh5RDj6x0UigMToe 8SiniUR/cAgV9WRWUsxm2eZ3PS4eikmjRAMP28gPwd4D9GgnvT5MngOc4HWoqMTqmk3v NPe2TDpoqhwEPCZ7CnFPCi1dY3dpTxxswSNCsVeXWG6IEHmA/aDB8p+JxTvnMMGuTg2A 8ufR+uqhsBLNN5PjsBZGFN8pqWpXXJL9CIRS0ff50mB0yJZSO0E7xl1GT5RBAvwbf4Oi afbQ== X-Received: by 10.50.60.1 with SMTP id d1mr313928igr.6.1365171149819; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 07:12:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.85.234 with SMTP id k10ls577849igz.42.canary; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 07:12:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.43.111.2 with SMTP id em2mr8216385icc.21.1365171148910; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 07:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x22a.google.com (mail-ob0-x22a.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id iw8si318501igc.1.2013.04.05.07.12.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Apr 2013 07:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22a; Received: by mail-ob0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id uy19so1552142obc.15 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 07:12:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.1.73 with SMTP id 9mr8387588oek.129.1365171148688; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 07:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.97.33 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 07:12:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20111216191725.GC22027@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <8740182.0AQ20pqDVb@caracal> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:12:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Mini-rant: gismu place consistency From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb2066060155d04d99dad11 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8fb2066060155d04d99dad11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> I think we should drop the direction place of "mitre" and the subunit >> places. >> I have no idea what to put in a subunit place, > > > I'm pretty sure it's there to be an identifier: {gutci fo la.intc.} (feet) > vs. {gutci fo lo degji} (cubit). > > It's seems a circumspect way to do so to me, though, and I'm just guessing. > > If that is indeed the intention, I agree that that place is pointless and > should be dropped, possibly replacing it with a me'e place. (In the x2, > pushing the rest one down?) > No, it's a numeric, such as mi li mu lo merko li pano --> I am 5'10" It appears at the end to not break the consistency (such as it is) with other measurment gismu. --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --e89a8fb2066060155d04d99dad11 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 2:2= 6 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
I think we should drop the direction place of "mitre" and t= he subunit places.
I have no idea what to put in a subunit place,

= I'm pretty sure it's there to be an identifier: {gutci fo la.intc.}= (feet) vs. {gutci fo lo degji} (cubit).

It's seems a circumspec= t way to do so to me, though, and I'm just guessing.

If that is indeed the intention, I agree that that place is pointless a= nd should be dropped, possibly replacing it with a me'e place. (In the = x2, pushing the rest one down?)


=A0 No, it's a numeric, such as mi li = mu lo merko =A0li pano --> I am 5'10" =A0It appears at the end = to not break the consistency (such as it is) with other measurment gismu.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

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