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Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 07:36:47 -0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: "Any" and {ro}
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On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:52 AM, la .lindar. <lindarthebard@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is at least the third time I've been in a thread just like this since
> I started here, so can we please pin/sticky/do something to prevent this
> thread from reappearing? It's {lo}. It's already there. It's built into the
> word. I'm pretty sure I settled on this with Robin, though nobody
> remembers[1]. Just saying {lo gerku ku} is like "any/some dog(s)"[2]. In
> fact, you can't not say "any" or "some"[3]. That's just how the word works.
>
> <sarcasm>
> Sources:
> 1. This is me being petty. =D
> 2. Somewhere in the CLL. Probably the part where it explains that.
> 3. Try to prove otherwise. =P
> </sarcasm>
>

You can't quote the CLL about lo--xorlo aside, the CLL's lo is defined in
terms of da, which means that {lo gerku cu se tuple vo da} means "there
exists a dog has 4 legs", not "any dog has 4 legs" under CLL-lo. Under
xorlo as I understand it right now it's more like you can't not say "the
generic".

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:52 AM, la .lindar. <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lindarthebard@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lindar=
thebard@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">This is at least the third time I&#39;ve bee=
n in a thread just like this since I started here, so can we please pin/sti=
cky/do something to prevent this thread from reappearing? It&#39;s {lo}. It=
&#39;s already there. It&#39;s built into the word. I&#39;m pretty sure I s=
ettled on this with Robin, though nobody remembers[1]. Just saying {lo gerk=
u ku} is like &quot;any/some dog(s)&quot;[2]. In fact, you can&#39;t not sa=
y &quot;any&quot; or &quot;some&quot;[3]. That&#39;s just how the word work=
s.<div>
<br></div><div>&lt;sarcasm&gt;</div><div>Sources:</div><div>1. This is me b=
eing petty. =3DD</div><div>2. Somewhere in the CLL. Probably the part where=
 it explains that.</div><div>3. Try to prove otherwise. =3DP</div><div>&lt;=
/sarcasm&gt;</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div style>You can&#39;t quote the CLL about lo=
--xorlo aside, the CLL&#39;s lo is defined in terms of da, which means that=
 {lo gerku cu se tuple vo da} means &quot;there exists a dog has 4 legs&quo=
t;, not &quot;any dog has 4 legs&quot; under CLL-lo. Under xorlo as I under=
stand it right now it&#39;s more like you can&#39;t not say &quot;the gener=
ic&quot;.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o</div></div=
><br></div></div>

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