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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 17:56:49 -0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Final state of cenba/zenba/etc.
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On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:00 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:

> You can use {lo ka ce'u ma kau kelvo} in this case, but my suggestion was
> meant to be a general one.

I would say that if there's a number, then there's a place that you can get
at that involves that number. You may have to circumlocute, but if you
really don't want to do so, {co'e ma kau} exists.

> Also, I prefer {ni} not to be "weird".

"Weird" was the wrong word, the point was that it's the vague comparable
term, the natural zmadu3, etc. It's not a number, at least not typically
(in my view it never is, since there's no clear rule for when it can and
can't be and whether it is or isn't has a marked impact on semantics.)

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:00 PM, selpa&#39;i <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:seladwa@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">seladwa@gmx.de<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
You can use {lo ka ce&#39;u ma kau kelvo} in this case, but my suggestion w=
as meant to be a general one. </blockquote><div style>I would say that if t=
here&#39;s a number, then there&#39;s a place that you can get at that invo=
lves that number. You may have to circumlocute, but if you really don&#39;t=
 want to do so, {co&#39;e ma kau} exists.</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Also, I prefer {ni} not to be &quot;weird&qu=
ot;.</blockquote><div style>&quot;Weird&quot; was the wrong word, the point=
 was that it&#39;s the vague comparable term, the natural zmadu3, etc. It&#=
39;s not a number, at least not typically (in my view it never is, since th=
ere&#39;s no clear rule for when it can and can&#39;t be and whether it is =
or isn&#39;t has a marked impact on semantics.)</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o</div></div=
><br></div></div>

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