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Subject: [lojban] nu+roi question
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When I say {mi djica lo nu pa roi broda}, can the {lo nu} be plural? That
is, am I saying "I want broda to happen exactly once" ji "I want event(s)
of broda happening once (as opposed to habitually or some other TAhE) to
happen"? If the latter, how can we express the former?

This question came up when we tried to distinguish between "I hate that you
fight" and "I hate when you fight", which were questions posed by gleki.
One interpretation of the "that" version was {mi xebni lo nu do ta'e
damba}. The "when" version was similar but with a "time-local" TAhE, "I
hate the time-local events of you fighting". If {pa roi} does the latter
thing above, then {mi xebni lo [so'o] nu do pa roi damba} is a translation
of this interpretation of the "when" version. Otherwise I think there is a
TAhE to be proposed here.

For completeness I should mention that {mi xebni lo du'u do damba} was also
proposed for the first case; I have mixed feelings about the correctness of
this, but would be interested to hear people's thoughts on the matter.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>When I say {mi djica lo nu pa roi broda}, can th=
e {lo nu} be plural? That is, am I saying &quot;I want broda to happen exac=
tly once&quot; ji &quot;I want event(s) of broda happening once (as opposed=
 to habitually or some other TAhE) to happen&quot;? If the latter, how can =
we express the former? <br>
<br></div>This question came up when we tried to distinguish between &quot;=
I hate that you fight&quot; and &quot;I hate when you fight&quot;, which we=
re questions posed by gleki. One interpretation of the &quot;that&quot; ver=
sion was {mi xebni lo nu do ta&#39;e damba}. The &quot;when&quot; version w=
as similar but with a &quot;time-local&quot; TAhE, &quot;I hate the time-lo=
cal events of you fighting&quot;. If {pa roi} does the latter thing above, =
then {mi xebni lo [so&#39;o] nu do pa roi damba} is a translation of this i=
nterpretation of the &quot;when&quot; version. Otherwise I think there is a=
 TAhE to be proposed here.<br>
<br></div><div>For completeness I should mention that {mi xebni lo du&#39;u=
 do damba} was also proposed for the first case; I have mixed feelings abou=
t the correctness of this, but would be interested to hear people&#39;s tho=
ughts on the matter.<br>
</div><div><br></div>mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o<br></div>

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