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We know that they are (un)grammatical. The first is grammatical if spoken and not if written, the second is the reverse. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM, selpa'i wrote: > la .frank. cu cusku di'e > > coi >> >> Should examples 10.3 & 10.4 in this chapter begin with "?" characters? >> > > Yes. > > It is common practice in linguistics to mark questionable sentences (that > is, sentences for which it is not clear whether they are grammatical) with > a question mark in front. 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They aren't questionable sentences. We know that they are (un)grammatical. The first is grammatical if spoken and not if written, the second is the reverse.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
la .frank. cu cusku di'e

coi

Should examples 10.3 & 10.4 in this chapter begin with "?" characters?

Yes.

It is common practice in linguistics to mark questionable sentences (that is, sentences for which it is not clear whether they are grammatical) with a question mark in front. Similarly, ungrammatical sentences are marked with an asterisc.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i


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