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On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> This question came up when we tried to distinguish between "I hate that
> you fight" and "I hate when you fight", which were questions posed by
> gleki. One interpretation of the "that" version was {mi xebni lo nu do ta'e
> damba}. The "when" version was similar but with a "time-local" TAhE, "I
> hate the time-local events of you fighting". If {pa roi} does the latter
> thing above, then {mi xebni lo [so'o] nu do pa roi damba} is a translation
> of this interpretation of the "when" version. Otherwise I think there is a
> TAhE to be proposed here.
>

I suggest "mi xebni ro nu do damba" for the second one. The "pa roi"
version I think gives the wrong impression, it suggests you hate events
involving single fights, but you might be ok with events in which multiple
fights are involved. As in "I hate it when you fight just once, I like it
when you fight again and again and again".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Ian Johnson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:blindbravado@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blindbravado@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><br></div>This qu=
estion came up when we tried to distinguish between &quot;I hate that you f=
ight&quot; and &quot;I hate when you fight&quot;, which were questions pose=
d by gleki. One interpretation of the &quot;that&quot; version was {mi xebn=
i lo nu do ta&#39;e damba}. The &quot;when&quot; version was similar but wi=
th a &quot;time-local&quot; TAhE, &quot;I hate the time-local events of you=
 fighting&quot;. If {pa roi} does the latter thing above, then {mi xebni lo=
 [so&#39;o] nu do pa roi damba} is a translation of this interpretation of =
the &quot;when&quot; version. Otherwise I think there is a TAhE to be propo=
sed here.<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>I suggest &quot;mi xebni=
 ro nu do damba&quot; for the second one. The &quot;pa roi&quot; version I =
think gives the wrong impression, it suggests you hate events involving sin=
gle fights, but you might be ok with events in which multiple fights are in=
volved. As in &quot;I hate it when you fight just once, I like it when you =
fight again and again and again&quot;.=A0</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div style><b=
r></div></div></div></div>

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