Received: from mail-qe0-f55.google.com ([209.85.128.55]:42086) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1US8XO-0003SG-1R for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:15:27 -0700 Received: by mail-qe0-f55.google.com with SMTP id f6sf250826qej.0 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:15:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=Y7XjtnaxuXrvfg4ur44cjyhsHkDNl7Zrtt2OKO6UNas=; b=rAWlvXOQIrrYTdvWFqn09ymMLSzatxbPSZ/XTQ9buJPfOmE7KGdhRmYkFQYeZGaUJa n2GTnlCMVgMqL9ktpntbcwljE319fu2uXssQm7KGqhjEtxkR+BWlGRioOywgY+i78nHh qO5UQsucxIRK4fOcIcVpC++3D1S/u9givJ0vtJJC2V1Mq/CotMhLOYP9TIvdCbwjWXR3 ALjQpOQ3CvwkuL3G1QhZlRLhZR46YvHOBEGm40wCV8imEXzhxVMHEp4kzPVgqwYw6I+P LyimpYsfV351JTViawE6N56rcdupdh9u9chpjXI0yKV7Ql1TdYts1jXhQhdcLzRwlBG8 C66A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=Y7XjtnaxuXrvfg4ur44cjyhsHkDNl7Zrtt2OKO6UNas=; b=hLyOy889CmTB8SpANrir5BpR4T/panFjDp/lJL/IyK7puOXn7T77VGppGD1rHNBuNP xztkuJPFPBIylL4x9UGFHp+KC/mOeby7GUTHPAcUj/cqxoSpsGY0G4LjW9JQnMMB+MJC PGfEM07W4uok0L3kbYtn6f0wdTbFih3ir/+NP5jxaQz8dvu/GdJfYJR6U9Qc8JYvZ8L3 xVmdqHwAHYrPF6wMQgdcmCrk85xEpKljmdgb41A90OxwjXCzAn6YLiKlW+M1En+fQUuy sQgX3iWgSWrFjl7LSO78CBRwJNoR1CPBctscOm+gxMqcHd2FhsxXrt6M9NFtDTTh3QO2 hyVQ== X-Received: by 10.50.43.225 with SMTP id z1mr486405igl.15.1366128910735; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:15:10 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.13.98 with SMTP id g2ls2114450igc.4.canary; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:15:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.42.153.197 with SMTP id n5mr2206665icw.33.1366128909691; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-x232.google.com (mail-ie0-x232.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c03::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id mk7si1206099igc.0.2013.04.16.09.15.09 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c03::232; Received: by mail-ie0-x232.google.com with SMTP id bn7so715293ieb.23 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:15:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.20.135 with SMTP id n7mr7957845ige.31.1366128909588; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.187.83 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Apr 2013 09:15:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:15:09 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] CLL, chapter 19, examples From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd766925fa60704da7cacf1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7bd766925fa60704da7cacf1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Same selma'o, so it still needs denpa bu. It's just explicitly for rafsi and not foreign quotes. When this was coined (I think xalbo actually coined this) the idea was that rafsi aren't actually foreign, so it seems weird to "foreign quote" them, even though they aren't speakable under the morphology. mi'e la latro'a mu'o On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Ian Johnson wrot= e: > >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote= : >> >>> "It should be noted particularly that =93zoi=94 quotation is the only w= ay to >>> quote rafsi...." {zo'oi.tce.} is a valid method for quoting the rafsi "= tce". >>> >> This is generally discouraged now, with {ra'oi} (of the same selma'o) >> being encouraged for the same purpose. >> >> mi'e la latro'a mu'o >> > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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Same selma'o, so it still needs denpa bu. It's jus= t explicitly for rafsi and not foreign quotes. When this was coined (I thin= k xalbo actually coined this) the idea was that rafsi aren't actually f= oreign, so it seems weird to "foreign quote" them, even though th= ey aren't speakable under the morphology.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o


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On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Jonathan Jones= <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com= > wrote:
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
"It should be noted par= ticularly that =93zoi=94 quotation is the only way to quote rafsi...."= {zo'oi.tce.} is a valid method for quoting the rafsi "tce".<= br>
This is generally discouraged now, with {ra&= #39;oi} (of the same selma'o) being encouraged for the same purpose.
mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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