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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Pini Kama sona (no 'e') Sent from my iPad On Apr 19, 2013, at 4:40, selpa'i wrote: [...] Content analysis details: (1.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: gmx.de] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (kali9putra[at]yahoo.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD 'From' yahoo.com does not match 'Received' headers 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Pini Kama sona (no 'e') Sent from my iPad On Apr 19, 2013, at 4:40, selpa'i wrote: > la'o me. shanoxilt .me cusku di'e >> coi ro do >=20 > coi do'u >=20 >> I've recently been considering whether I should abandon learning Lojban >> in favor of Esperanto or Toki Pona. Thus far, it has been a difficult >> and unrewarding language. Yet, something in the back of my mind >> continues to draw me to it. What should I do? >=20 > Esperantlingvo eble estas interesa, kaj certe ne estas malficila. Sed la= =C5=AD mia opinio =C4=9Di ne estas pli interesa ol Lo=C4=B5bano, =C4=89ar = =C4=9Di estas tre simila al aliaj latinidaj lingvoj. >=20 > ni'o ju'o cu'i lo sperybau cu cinri .i je ju'o ja'ai na nandu .i ku'i pe'= i na zmadu lo jbobau lo ka cinri .i ki'u bo mutce lo ka simsa lo drata ke l= atmo bangu >=20 >=20 > toki pona li pona a. mi pilin e ni: jan ale li ken kama sona e toki pona.= pona mute. tenpo suno kama la sina pini e kama sona e toki a a a. >=20 > ni'o ie lo tokpona cu xamgu gi'a sampu .i mi jinvi la'e di'e .i ro prenu = cu kakne lo nu crebi'o tu'a lo tokpona .i tai sampu .i zo'o .u'i ca lo bavl= amdei do mo'u tadni ty >=20 > I doubt you have to abandon anything to learn Toki Pona. You can learn it= and then come back to Lojban the next day. ;) >=20 >=20 > Obviously, the answer is that you should do what you most want to do. Fol= low your dreams. Chances are you haven't found the right way (for you) to s= tudy Lojban yet; Would you like to tell us how you did it so far? What are = the problems you are encountering that make you so frustrated. >=20 > Sorry if this wasn't helpful, but I can neither in good conscience force = you to stay if you don't want to, nor is it my desire that you leave Lojban= behind. It's entirely up to you. If you need help with Lojban, we are ther= e for you. >=20 > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an= email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >=20 >=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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