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"Derived from" is overly kind; they are semantically related and the connection is thought to make them easier to remember.

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On Apr 19, 2013, at 17:43, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 19 April 2013 10:43, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> wait, your ipod understands lojban????? e'o do ciksi gije skicu
> 
>  
> 
> Sadly, it doesn't, but as a result of me typing quite a bit of Lojban into it with autocorrect turned on, it "knows" a handful of gismu.
>  
> 
> pardon my ignorance but arent {ni} and {ka} derived from klani and ckaji?
> 
> They are. And {nu} from {fasnu}, {su'u} from {sucta}, {pu'u} from {pruce}, {mu'e} from {mulno}. I think the CLL lists where they're all from.
> 
> .i mi'e la tsani mu'o
>  
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<html><head></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>"Derived from" is overly =
kind; they are semantically related and the connection is thought to make t=
hem easier to remember.<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Apr 19, 2=
013, at 17:43, Jacob Errington &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com">ni=
ctytan@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">On 19 April 2013 10:43, la gleki <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gl=
eki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im"><div><br></div></div><div>=
wait, your ipod understands lojban????? e'o do ciksi gije skicu</div><div c=
lass=3D"im">

<div><br></div><div>&nbsp;</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div styl=
e=3D"">Sadly, it doesn't, but as a result of me typing quite a bit of Lojba=
n into it with autocorrect turned on, it "knows" a handful of gismu.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im"><div><br>=
</div></div><div>pardon my ignorance but arent {ni} and {ka} derived from k=
lani and ckaji?</div>

</blockquote><div><br></div><div style=3D"">They are. And {nu} from {fasnu}=
, {su'u} from {sucta}, {pu'u} from {pruce}, {mu'e} from {mulno}. I think th=
e CLL lists where they're all from.</div><div style=3D""><br></div>

<div style=3D"">.i mi'e la tsani mu'o</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><=
div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">
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