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Subject: Re: [lojban] 5 classes of sumti in Lojban and about a new word for
 "grammatical abstraction"
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On Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:43:47 AM UTC+4, tsani wrote:
>
> On 19 April 2013 10:43, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>>
>> wait, your ipod understands lojban????? e'o do ciksi gije skicu
>>
>>  
>>
>
> Sadly, it doesn't, but as a result of me typing quite a bit of Lojban into 
> it with autocorrect turned on, it "knows" a handful of gismu.
>  
>
>>
>> pardon my ignorance but arent {ni} and {ka} derived from klani and ckaji?
>>
>
> They are. And {nu} from {fasnu}, {su'u} from {sucta}, {pu'u} from {pruce}, 
> {mu'e} from {mulno}. I think the CLL lists where they're all from.
>

Well, I wanted to ask why should we have a separate fundamental class of 
sumti if {ni} is derived and therefore probably can be rephrased from 
another NU type of sumti.

Another question is isn't fasnu1 and djuno2 have something in common? We 
call both of them abstractions but acc. to your scheme they are in separate 
classes.


> .i mi'e la tsani mu'o
>
>>  
>>
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<br><br>On Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:43:47 AM UTC+4, tsani wrote:<blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left:=
 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">On 19 April 2013 10:43=
, la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" =
gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"oOYBJbCH1soJ">gleki.is...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>=
 wrote:<br><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div></div><div>wait, your ip=
od understands lojban????? e'o do ciksi gije skicu</div><div>

<div><br></div><div>&nbsp;</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sadl=
y, it doesn't, but as a result of me typing quite a bit of Lojban into it w=
ith autocorrect turned on, it "knows" a handful of gismu.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div></div><=
div>pardon my ignorance but arent {ni} and {ka} derived from klani and ckaj=
i?</div>

</blockquote><div><br></div><div>They are. And {nu} from {fasnu}, {su'u} fr=
om {sucta}, {pu'u} from {pruce}, {mu'e} from {mulno}. I think the CLL lists=
 where they're all from.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div=
><div>Well, I wanted to ask why should we have a separate fundamental class=
 of sumti if {ni} is derived and therefore probably can be rephrased from a=
nother NU type of sumti.</div><div><br></div><div>Another question is isn't=
 fasnu1 and djuno2 have something in common? We call both of them abstracti=
ons but acc. to your scheme they are in separate classes.</div><div><br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;=
border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div><br></div>

<div>.i mi'e la tsani mu'o</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
&nbsp;<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</blockquote>

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