Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 21:36:35 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Should I quit learning Lojban?
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On Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:24:12 AM UTC+4, shanoxilt wrote:
>
> Obviously, the answer is that you should do what you most want to do.  
>>
> Follow your dreams. Chances are you haven't found the right way (for 
>>
> you) to study Lojban yet; 
>
> I'm terrible at studying. I can't seem to stick with it consistently. :(
>  
>
>> Would you like to tell us how you did it so far? What are the problems 
>> you are encountering that make you so frustrated. 
>>
> The logical aspect of the language is a bit counterintuitive, perhaps 
> unnatural. Also, gismu with more than 3 sumti are difficult to remember. In 
> addition to this, there is always a new discussion about reforms despite 
> the fact that so few have learned standard Lojban. 
>

mi na jinvi lo du'u ma'a so'iroi casnu lo srana be lo nu galfi lo jbobau i 
sa'u ma'a casnu lo vrici smuni ja gerna nabmi poi zasti bau lo so'a bangu
i je'u so'u da poi se terdi cu casnu lo simsa i la'e di'u mupli pa lo krinu 
lo nu mi prami lo jbogu'e cecmu i uinairu'e lo jbopre po'o ba'uru'e casnu 
lo cinri ke bangu stura pevpagbu

I don't think that we discuss very often what to radically change in 
Lojban. We simple discuss various semantic or grammatical problems that 
exist in almost all languages. The fact is that very few people on the 
earth discuss similar things. This is one of the reasons why i like Lojban 
community. It's a bit disappointing that only (<-- yes, I'm exaggerating a 
bit) Lojbanists discuss interesting aspects of language structure.


>
> Sorry if this wasn't helpful, but I can neither in good conscience force 
>>
> you to stay if you don't want to, nor is it my desire that you leave 
>
> Lojban behind. It's entirely up to you. If you need help with Lojban, we 
>
> are there for you. 
>
> Thank you. I just don't want to disappoint myself and other Lojbani. If 
> you recall, I am one of the moderators of /r/Lojban on Reddit so it seems I 
> should have mastered this language by now.
>  
>
>
> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i 
>
>

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<br><br>On Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:24:12 AM UTC+4, shanoxilt wrote:<blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-=
left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">Obviously, the answer is that you should do what you most want to do.=
 &nbsp;<br></blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Follow your=
 dreams. Chances are you haven't found the right way (for=20
<br></blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin=
-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">you) to study Lojb=
an yet; </blockquote><div>I'm terrible at studying. I can't seem to stick w=
ith it consistently. :(</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">Would you like to tell us how you did it so far? What are the pr=
oblems you are encountering that make you so frustrated.&nbsp;<br></blockqu=
ote>
<div>The logical aspect of the language is a bit counterintuitive, perhaps =
unnatural. Also, gismu with more than 3 sumti are difficult to remember. In=
 addition to this, there is always a new discussion about reforms despite t=
he fact that so few have learned standard Lojban.&nbsp;</div></blockquote><=
div><br></div><div>mi na jinvi lo du'u ma'a so'iroi casnu lo srana be lo nu=
 galfi lo jbobau i sa'u ma'a casnu lo vrici smuni ja gerna nabmi poi zasti =
bau lo so'a bangu</div><div>i je'u so'u da poi se terdi cu casnu lo simsa i=
 la'e di'u mupli pa lo krinu lo nu mi prami lo jbogu'e cecmu i uinairu'e lo=
 jbopre po'o ba'uru'e casnu lo cinri ke bangu stura pevpagbu</div><div><br>=
</div><div>I don't think that we discuss very often what to radically chang=
e in Lojban. We simple discuss various semantic or grammatical problems tha=
t exist in almost all languages. The fact is that very few people on the ea=
rth discuss similar things. This is one of the reasons why i like Lojban co=
mmunity. It's a bit disappointing that only (&lt;-- yes, I'm exaggerating a=
 bit) Lojbanists discuss interesting aspects of language structure.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><d=
iv>&nbsp;</div><blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Sorry if=
 this wasn't helpful, but I can neither in good conscience force=20
<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>you to stay if you do=
n't want to, nor is it my desire that you leave=20
<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Lojban behind. It's e=
ntirely up to you. If you need help with Lojban, we=20
<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>are there for you.
<br></blockquote></blockquote><div>Thank you. I just don't want to disappoi=
nt myself and other Lojbani. If you recall, I am one of the moderators of /=
r/Lojban on Reddit so it seems I should have mastered this language by now.=
</div><div>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote><br></blockquote><blockquote>mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
<br></blockquote></blockquote>

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