Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 06:38:26 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Should I quit learning Lojban?
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On Saturday, April 20, 2013 5:19:13 PM UTC+4, Betsemes wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:58 AM, shanoxilt 
> > I've recently been considering whether I should abandon learning Lojban 
> in 
> > favor of Esperanto or Toki Pona. Thus far, it has been a difficult and 
> > unrewarding language. Yet, something in the back of my mind continues to 
> > draw me to it. What should I do? 
>
> I have been and still am struggling with learning Lojban. I knew about 
> Lojban some years ago while I was learning the Klingon Language 
> (mostly because I was a trekkie). Back then, I tried to learn both of 
> them and found myself struggling with both languages. As I studied 
> both languages I realized that 1) I was not really interested in 
> learning a language that cannot be used for real like Klingon was with 
> its severely limited vocabulary that was created to fit a fictional 
> alien race and not humans. 2) The whole lot of usage of gutural sounds 
> made me get into the (maybe wrong) feeling that I was learning 
> garbage. I ended up deciding I didn't like Klingon. On the other hand, 
> my computer science studies made Lojban even more interesting as I 
> learned about it. So I decided to give Lojban my full attention and 
> quit Klingon. 
>
> But I have been very inconsistent on learning its vocabulary. I 
> remember the time I first came to this list. Back then one of the 
> current experts, selpa'i, was not here yet. It has been a long time, 
> and I still cannot read a single Lojban line. 
>
> More recently, I have been doing what I think has solved my 
> procrastination problem; a flashcards program called Mnemosyne. I 
> unsuccessfuly used another flashcards program before, Cue Cards. 
> Mnemosyne is more robust and feature-rich while still looking clean. I 
> only complained about a single flaw, but now it's fixed and I'm ready 
> to import the whole of jbovlaste into it sorted by descending 
> frequency (that thread was a godsend). 
>

oh wait, i'll upload another freq dic now.
 

>
> So, for me, it's now or never. I think I have never had a better 
> opportunity. Well, working on a fictional story set on a 
> Lojban-speaking country has helped. 
>
> So maybe it's a matter of finding the right study way for you. 
>
> mu'o mi'e betsemes 
>

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<br><br>On Saturday, April 20, 2013 5:19:13 PM UTC+4, Betsemes wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:58 AM, shanoxilt
<br>&gt; I've recently been considering whether I should abandon learning Lojban in
<br>&gt; favor of Esperanto or Toki Pona. Thus far, it has been a difficult and
<br>&gt; unrewarding language. Yet, something in the back of my mind continues to
<br>&gt; draw me to it. What should I do?
<br>
<br>I have been and still am struggling with learning Lojban. I knew about
<br>Lojban some years ago while I was learning the Klingon Language
<br>(mostly because I was a trekkie). Back then, I tried to learn both of
<br>them and found myself struggling with both languages. As I studied
<br>both languages I realized that 1) I was not really interested in
<br>learning a language that cannot be used for real like Klingon was with
<br>its severely limited vocabulary that was created to fit a fictional
<br>alien race and not humans. 2) The whole lot of usage of gutural sounds
<br>made me get into the (maybe wrong) feeling that I was learning
<br>garbage. I ended up deciding I didn't like Klingon. On the other hand,
<br>my computer science studies made Lojban even more interesting as I
<br>learned about it. So I decided to give Lojban my full attention and
<br>quit Klingon.
<br>
<br>But I have been very inconsistent on learning its vocabulary. I
<br>remember the time I first came to this list. Back then one of the
<br>current experts, selpa'i, was not here yet. It has been a long time,
<br>and I still cannot read a single Lojban line.
<br>
<br>More recently, I have been doing what I think has solved my
<br>procrastination problem; a flashcards program called Mnemosyne. I
<br>unsuccessfuly used another flashcards program before, Cue Cards.
<br>Mnemosyne is more robust and feature-rich while still looking clean. I
<br>only complained about a single flaw, but now it's fixed and I'm ready
<br>to import the whole of jbovlaste into it sorted by descending
<br>frequency (that thread was a godsend).
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>oh wait, i'll upload another freq dic now.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>So, for me, it's now or never. I think I have never had a better
<br>opportunity. Well, working on a fictional story set on a
<br>Lojban-speaking country has helped.
<br>
<br>So maybe it's a matter of finding the right study way for you.
<br>
<br>mu'o mi'e betsemes
<br></blockquote>

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